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Create inspection table

Create inspection table

A welcome new feature would be to extend the current inspection dimension.

 

In the current dimension window you can only change the shape of the balloon, add a label and an inspection rate.

The disadvantage of this  is that it is rather far away, and not quickly editable. And that geometrical dimensions for example are not included.

 

Besides of that the colleaguees from the incoming goods inspection, don't have inventor. They have MS Excel thought. So it would be great if this feature was taken to the next level. With a quick acces option to simply add the inspection information to a dimension.

After clicking on the icon the user can select they way of numbering (Alpha/Numberic) and a default inspection rate. Then he can or select all the dimenions and add these properties to it, or he can select the dimensions one by one, asked to fill out the inspection rate.

There should also be an option to renumber the inspection dimensions. Start by #1 and every click on a following dimension increases the #. (Like AMD ballooning; maybe a idea for reballooning in Inventor also).

 

Finally a table can be created with an overview of all the inspection dimensions, with the tolerances intergrated and inspection rates included. This table should be exportable to MS Excel, maybe even with a conditional formatting when the later measured dimension is added, the cell will color red/green.

 

Something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCgW4Xn-ym4 , only better..

 

All the data/variables are already present inside the idw, why nog use them to the maximum?

29 Comments
edenblijker
Contributor

+++++ many kuddo's !Smiley LOL! We really must have that in Inventor. Why Solidworks has it and not Autodesk?

chris54
Collaborator

For inspection purposes, we must manually write all dimensions to an "Inspection Sheet".  I'd like to see a report to do this automatically.  (I have seen other requests for this function in the discussion group.) 

 

I have also seen a sample VBA macro.  As I have virtually zero exposure to VBA, I have not been able to get the sample to run.

 

It would seem that a "Report" could be easily installed that would export (to cvs or Excell) Dims (with symbols) and tolerance type with values.

 

Inspection Sheets are used by virtually every machine shop.  This is a much needed report.

 

Thanks!

 

Chris Breidenbaugh

wannensn
Enthusiast

Hi Chris,

 

I'm not sure if it is allowed to publish posts like the following on the idea station - but I will try:

 

We have developed an addin to mark inspection dimensions in a drawing and to export all marked dimensions to an Excel or csv file.

 

You can find it in the app store:

 

https://apps.autodesk.com/INVNTOR/en/Detail/Index?id=appstore.exchange.autodesk.com%3areitectestplan...

 

Regards, Stephan

asiu
Advocate

Hi Chris,

 

Great suggestion. I think that Autodesk is already on the manufacturing path, aquiring CAM software, being interested in 3D printing. I think the next logical step is to cover the dimensional inspection aspect.

 

I wish that the GD&T will be brought up to the latest standard and it we will be able to add GD&T in 3D, as it was intended not so long ago, see the app in Lab.

 

My point is that the implementation of your request should be just the first step and we should get a "add on", inspection related, with capabilities to couple with 3D inspection CMM's, etc. The Report should be customizable per company standard or per QC inspection standards.

 

Cheers,

Adrian

chris54
Collaborator

I work for a large machine shop.  Inspection sheet are used with EVERY job.  It's a tremendous waste of time not being able to generate inspection sheets.  If I have here" Ya, but Solidworks does that" one more time...

edenblijker
Contributor

no reaction from Autodesk till now?

edenblijker
Contributor

Still no answer? Smiley Sad Smiley Mad

Bossong5Eng
Community Visitor

Great Idea - I was surprised to find the feature does not already exist.

 

edenblijker
Contributor

Still no solution or App developed?

liam28V7Q
Explorer

BUMP!!!!

 

This feature is being sorely missed by any engineer who has to deal with in-house or contract manufacturing and quality assurance.........which has to be nearly everyone!!

 

Having this feature would save myself and the engineers in my team countless manhours in document prep and revisions. It would also remove an element of human error in transcribing dimensions and tolerances.

 

It seems to me that all this would require is the ability to create a table of dimensions that have been designated as inspection dimensions in an existing drawing feature as seen in the screen clip below. The fields already exist so it's just a matter of building the functionality to include them in a table.

Inspection Dim.PNG

Uwe_Lindner
Collaborator

Anwender wünschen sie die Option Prüfmaß bereits in der Modellbemaßung zu setzen.

Prüfmaß.JPG

Die Option soll dann automatisch an die 3D Annotations und an die 2D Zeichnung weitergegeben werden können. In der IDW soll die Option mit übertragen werden.

 

Google Translate

Users want to set the option Check dimension already in the model dimensioning.

The option should then be automatically forwarded to the 3D annotation and to the 2D drawing. The option should be transferred in the IDW.

frugal
Enthusiast

+1000 for this suggestion.

 

How much time have I wasted manually transcribing dimensions to a table?

How many errors have I made doing so - or not catching changes that need to be made to the table when the design is modified?

 

My work-around is a VBA macro that exports inspection dimensions [here]. It says it works for Inventor 2010-2016 drawings. About to find out if it still works for 2019!

 

Implementation for this should be totally straightforward!!

wannensn
Enthusiast

To create an inspection plan, you often need more than just the inspection dimensions. Often you also have to check labels, weight or surface finish.

With the AddIn developed by us, you can mark any inspection characteristics and either output them directly as a table on the drawing or export them as a Csv/Excel file.

More information can be found in the Appstore under
https://apps.autodesk.com/INVNTOR/en/Detail/Index?id=5701879089477930978&appLang=en&os=Win64

 

or on our website at

https://www.reitec-software.com/en/products/reitectestplan/

 

And the best in the end - it's not really expensive.
--Stephan

beierf
Alumni

Setting an inspection dimension once and you can use it everywhere - this will be helpful. So you don´t need to know where you add them and you can use it even on CAM or for MBD. 

pl.sivakumar
Advocate

Hi,

 

I seen demo of Inspection tool in SW.  Very helpful to medium/small scale industries .

 

Why not add in Inventor.

how to Create  an user annotated parameter chart in the Drawing file as like the >ipt file.

Melanie.thilo
Autodesk

Learn in this article Tips and Tricks about Model-Based Definition  on AKN how to create an Inspection Dimension in MBD

Uwe_Lindner
Collaborator

Danke für den Screencast.

Ich muss nun meine Anforderung präzisieren:

Anwender wünschen sie die Option Prüfmaß bereits in der Modellbemaßung der Skizze setzen zu können.

In der Modellbemaßung der Skizze kann der Anwender im Moment nur eine Toleranz bestimmen, aber keine Definition zur Prüfbemaßung setzen. Wird aber von Anwendern gewünscht, da bei der Modellierung in den meisten Fällen schon klar ist was Prüfmaße werden.

Diese "Option" möchten die Anwender dann in der MBD Bemaßung und in der Bemaßung in der IDW abrufen / übertragen können. Vereinfacht den Prozess zur Zeichnungserstellung.

Perfekt wäre es wenn man eine Modellbemaßung in der IDW abruft und die Option "Prüfbemaßung" aus der IDW zurück in die Bemaßung in der Modellskizze setzen kann. Sozusagen bidirektional.

Zusatzwunsch:

Eine Liste der Prüfbemaßungen in ein externes  (frei konfigurierbares) und mit der IDW referenziertes Protokoll zu übertragen. Datei Format ist erst einmal egal, sofern einfach zu konfigurieren. Dabei wären *.XLS, *.DOC, *.RDLC aus unserer Sicht sinnvolle Formate. Dieses Formular könnte man dann in der Fertigung für die QS verwenden.

inv.ideareview
Autodesk
Status changed to: Gathering Support
 
wannensn
Enthusiast

I can just repeat what I posted earlier in this thread:

 

Just give our app a try:

https://apps.autodesk.com/INVNTOR/de/Detail/Index?id=5701879089477930978&appLang=en&os=Win64

 

We don't support MDBs yet, because the Inventor API doesn' allow any custom annotations in the model - but as soon as this is supported we will release a new version...

--Stephan

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