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2 words - SPELL CHECK

2 words - SPELL CHECK

need I say more?

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Anonymous
Not applicable

What happened?  My idea has been merged into an idea that has been marked as accepted but not implemented?

 

Will this idea turn into vaporware as well?  I guess it is already vaporware, almost three years and counting!

 

I would just like to know what is going on.

msklein
Collaborator

Like I said I've been asking since December of 2000, I also asked the program managers when they flew down from Oregon to visit the "Silicon Valley Users Group" when were we going to get a spell checker, that was back in2001-2002. I've ranted every year or so for the last 17yrs, so why no spell checker. AutoCAD got a spell checker back in 94 or so (autocad14) and it was still not as good as some of the third party checkers.

So Autodesk has acknowledged the need for spell checkers way back in the early-mid 90's.

DRoam
Mentor

Just curious. Do more people want a spell checker that works in the text editor, to check the text object currently being edited? Or one that checks the entire drawing? Or both?

 

Also, how critical is it for you to be able to "Add to Dictionary" words you commonly use that aren't recognized? And if it's important, should this dictionary be linked to the Microsoft Office dictionaries, or should it be exclusive to Inventor?

 

msklein
Collaborator

Text editor and text object currently being edited would seam to do the job. Needing both of these as Iproperties, parts list, notes, ect. And with out a customizable dictionary it's no good. Each engineering discipline has different word requirements. No it should not be linked to MS you can't trust them at all.

Anonymous
Not applicable

Before I answer your first three questions, I am curious why you would think only parts of a drawing would need to be spell checked?

Regardless of that, the answer to your first three questions is everything. Text boxes, objects (annotations, dimensions, tables...) and iProperties need to be checked. Either as you type or on demand (pressing F7 for almost all other software).

Being able to customize the dictionary is important as my company’s name does not need to be flagged every time as well as words used by engineers but not commonly found in dictionary’s. Like calender.

Anonymous
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I am confused. The email I got says this is activity on a thread and the link takes me to the thread but this comment is not there. The email came from a no-reply domain.

What is going on? Who are you? And how did @msklein send me a message - I cannot follow his link either.

Either way, if you are a person, here are the answers to your questions:

Before I answer your first three questions, I am curious why you would think only parts of a drawing would need to be spell checked?

The answer to your first three questions is everything. Text boxes, object (annotations, dimensions, tables) and iProperties need to be checked. Either as you type or on demand (pressing F7 for almost all other software).

Being able to customize the dictionary is important as my company’s name does not need to be flagged every time as well as words commonly used by engineers but not commonly found in dictionary’s. Like calender.

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msklein
Collaborator

Ronald, it also sent me to the wrong thread to be exact it sent me to another location in the forum altogether. If I remember correctly the no reply domain came from Autodesk, it also confused me, but since I deleted the e-mail don't remember the name at Autodesk.

 

But back to my comment I want the spell checker to work inside of module i'm working in since a large amount of text is done outside of the text editor I want it a the time i'm creating any text over having it a the overall drawing point. Don't make me go back and have to open to make spelling corrections. At the overall drawing level it creates another checking point I now would have to add to my drawing release check list. If any part of the drawing that has text can not be spell checked then it's not worth having.

Anonymous
Not applicable

Bueller?...Bueller?

Anonymous
Not applicable

Don't think accepted means anything.  No one is working on spell check.

 

A developer told me that it is to big a nut to crack and even though it is absurd to not have this functionality in such an advanced program, not enough people are complaining for them to do anything about it.

 

I really wish I would have known this function was not standard in Inventor before I switched to it - I would have never done it.

dan_szymanski
Autodesk
Status changed to: Future Consideration

Idea added to backlog for future consideration [407]. Thanks!

 

We are attempting to refine the process around Idea status, thus the change.  Thanks.

Anonymous
Not applicable

What does this mean?  Will it ever be done?  When?

 

Could anyone imagine releasing a product like this today without spell check?  It would not be given any serious consideration as a viable solution to design work.

msklein
Collaborator

Seems to me I remember that we were told the same thing somewhere around 7-10 yrs ago.  Still waiting, they did tell us back then about using MS text editor.

 

Ronald  I couldn't imagine that they released IV back in 2000 without a spell checker and decent text editor, been complaining since then. 

msklein
Collaborator

When they say that it "WILL" be in the next release I might buy it, till the Beta releases come out and we hear rumors about it. But then what's in the beta release, has been in past a well kept secret.

dan_szymanski
Autodesk

Hello @Anonymous & @,@msklein, and all,

 

A definition of the Inventor Ideas "Future Consideration" status (as well as other status's) can be reviewed here.  Wherein it states:  Future Consideration: While we’re generally a fan of these ideas, the timing isn’t quite right for development consideration. As such, they are being put on the back burner to be re-visited at a later date. Please continue to comment and add your support.

 

Also, we encourage anyone who is interested in:

  • Learning what the Inventor Engineering team is up to or planning for future releases
  • Providing feedback and opinions on future designs
  • Engaging on internal forums with Experience Designers, Quality Assurance, Content Delivery, Product Management and Development on a variety of workflow and design need topics

to join our internal beta forum.  Anyone interested can sign up here

 

Thanks,

Dan

tschaeferZNBXX
Advisor

No offense but 3+ years seems to be a bit long on the back burner to me.

msklein
Collaborator

tschaeferZNBXX, no offense but it's not been 3+ years for me. I believe my first rant on this forum was back around 2001-2002. My standard statement has been a spell checker should be the very first module when creating a cad program. Engineers are notoriously bad spellers.

 

Alas not as bad as print reporters. 

 

 

 

 

 "The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration" 

Anonymous
Not applicable

I've got to chime in too.  This is a bit ridiculous, your comments section on the forum has spell check but it's not in your software?  My company has the engineers make the instruction sheets for our products - in Inventor.  It's a horrible practice but we are required to do so.

 

I went to a inventor users meeting in St.Paul a while back (10 yrs?) and the only question I asked was "does the next version come with spell check?"  The only people in the room not laughing were the reps at the table.  They said no but it was being considered for future versions.

 

Fast forward to today and when we had a sales rep for Solidworks come in I asked if they had spell check and he chuckled and said "yes".  I told him then and there that they have my vote to switch.

 

This shouldn't even be an issue, it needs to just be done.  At least have it setup to use Office dictionaries, a least it would be something.

 

What a joke!

msklein
Collaborator
Hey, you've only been asking for 10yrs light weight, I've been asking for 17yrs. But then I've not been sateled with doing what should be done in a word processor. I also use am a big believer in a standard set of preset written notes. 
Anonymous
Not applicable

I've only been asking since then, I've been using Inventor since ver. 4.

 

When we have instruction sheets that can be 4 pages or so of nothing but written text, it can be a bit arduous.  I usually cut it from the text box and copy it into word then paste it back when the spell check is done.

 

We have some standard phrases like "raise exhaust back into position" or "Torque all 1/2" fasteners to 110 lb-ft." Vehicles vary quite a bit otherwise so it always takes a little wording finesse.

msklein
Collaborator
as I said I feel for because someone who has no idea what they are doing, is forcing instructions to be written in a non word type software program. But I still win I started with release 2, but in job change missed version 4. Engineering needs to regain control it's own destiny, stupid decisions like this only raise costs and wastes time of engineering and raise engineers frustrations with work..

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