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Struggling with creating solid from surface model

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Mehmet_Fatih_Turker
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Struggling with creating solid from surface model

Mehmet_Fatih_Turker
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Hi all  I attached the part file that I struggle with. Im trying some ways which I found from youtube or Inventor forum but none of them just couldnt solve the problem. I dont know maybe I made something wrong. Can someone help me with that ?

Struggling with creating solid from surface model

Hi all  I attached the part file that I struggle with. Im trying some ways which I found from youtube or Inventor forum but none of them just couldnt solve the problem. I dont know maybe I made something wrong. Can someone help me with that ?

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Mehmet_Fatih_Turker
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Here is attached files

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Here is attached files

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JDMather
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The original geometry is poor quality.

I would use only as reference in creating high quality geometry from scratch.

JDMather_0-1699442190608.png

What are you attempting to model?

Do you have a picture of something similar from the real world?


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The original geometry is poor quality.

I would use only as reference in creating high quality geometry from scratch.

JDMather_0-1699442190608.png

What are you attempting to model?

Do you have a picture of something similar from the real world?


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Message 4 of 15

Mehmet_Fatih_Turker
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WhatsApp Görsel 2023-11-08 saat 14.31.38_3dfb9346.jpg

 Hi sir, 

 

This is the part, I scanned as 3d and menaged to convert to surfaces.

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WhatsApp Görsel 2023-11-08 saat 14.31.38_3dfb9346.jpg

 Hi sir, 

 

This is the part, I scanned as 3d and menaged to convert to surfaces.

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JDMather
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@Mehmet_Fatih_Turker 

Somebody must have designed that.

Can you contact the source of the Intellectual Property and request a CAD file?

Otherwise - I would remodel from scratch using the scan only as reference.


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@Mehmet_Fatih_Turker 

Somebody must have designed that.

Can you contact the source of the Intellectual Property and request a CAD file?

Otherwise - I would remodel from scratch using the scan only as reference.


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Message 6 of 15

Mehmet_Fatih_Turker
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"The original geometry is poor quality.

I would use only as reference in creating high quality geometry from scratch."

Can you give som hint about that ?

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"The original geometry is poor quality.

I would use only as reference in creating high quality geometry from scratch."

Can you give som hint about that ?

Message 7 of 15

JDMather
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@Mehmet_Fatih_Turker wrote:

"The original geometry is poor quality.

I would use only as reference in creating high quality geometry from scratch."

Can you give some hint about that?


I already gave the hint about that in previous image attachment.

How would this surface logically have any Thickness?

JDMather_0-1699445249007.png

You can Thicken most (some? all? I only tried a few) of the other surfaces.


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@Mehmet_Fatih_Turker wrote:

"The original geometry is poor quality.

I would use only as reference in creating high quality geometry from scratch."

Can you give some hint about that?


I already gave the hint about that in previous image attachment.

How would this surface logically have any Thickness?

JDMather_0-1699445249007.png

You can Thicken most (some? all? I only tried a few) of the other surfaces.


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@Mehmet_Fatih_Turker wrote:

"The original geometry is poor quality.

I would use only as reference in creating high quality geometry from scratch."

Can you give som hint about that ?


The idea is that it serves as a visual template, and you carry out the modeling process manually.
Alternatively, you can draw cross-sectional sketches at certain jumps and then make a Loft.

 

You can perform another scan with better quality.

 


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@Mehmet_Fatih_Turker wrote:

"The original geometry is poor quality.

I would use only as reference in creating high quality geometry from scratch."

Can you give som hint about that ?


The idea is that it serves as a visual template, and you carry out the modeling process manually.
Alternatively, you can draw cross-sectional sketches at certain jumps and then make a Loft.

 

You can perform another scan with better quality.

 


Kacper Suchomski

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Message 9 of 15

Mehmet_Fatih_Turker
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That is another level to do and would take probably sometime to design it. Anyway, I contacted to manufacturer any seems like they sent me anether 3d scanned part but at least better 🙂 I tried to convert it to solid body somehow but just couldnt make this either. Probably its better to use cross sectional sketches... İs there any training for surface modeling feature of Inventor ? I mean very serious one. the ones that I found are always for solid models, assy's,analysis but not on surface or how to approach to surfaces.

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That is another level to do and would take probably sometime to design it. Anyway, I contacted to manufacturer any seems like they sent me anether 3d scanned part but at least better 🙂 I tried to convert it to solid body somehow but just couldnt make this either. Probably its better to use cross sectional sketches... İs there any training for surface modeling feature of Inventor ? I mean very serious one. the ones that I found are always for solid models, assy's,analysis but not on surface or how to approach to surfaces.

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blandb
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It is not water tight here:

 

blandb_0-1699455923066.png

What is your end goal with this? Is it for reference? If so, can you use this model as is even if it is a surface?

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It is not water tight here:

 

blandb_0-1699455923066.png

What is your end goal with this? Is it for reference? If so, can you use this model as is even if it is a surface?

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Message 11 of 15
blandb
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After a quick mess around, Please see attached.

 

blandb_0-1699456761015.png

 

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After a quick mess around, Please see attached.

 

blandb_0-1699456761015.png

 

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Message 12 of 15
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blandb
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Here is a browser "cleaned" version where it is just the solid.

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Here is a browser "cleaned" version where it is just the solid.

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Message 13 of 15

Mehmet_Fatih_Turker
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This design came to me like this. I  was trying to apply boundary patch but just couldnt menage to do this. What you have done was perfect by the way but I still couldn't understand that how did you make part from that ?  What are those quilts ?

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This design came to me like this. I  was trying to apply boundary patch but just couldnt menage to do this. What you have done was perfect by the way but I still couldn't understand that how did you make part from that ?  What are those quilts ?

Message 14 of 15

Mehmet_Fatih_Turker
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Okay sir I got it, I made one also by following you, thank you for nice solution, I m very apprecciated.

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Okay sir I got it, I made one also by following you, thank you for nice solution, I m very apprecciated.

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blandb
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The inside one of that pocket was the tricky one, I just deleted the faces of the partial filling (shown below) and then the last boundary patch worked.

 

blandb_0-1699459788464.png

 

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The inside one of that pocket was the tricky one, I just deleted the faces of the partial filling (shown below) and then the last boundary patch worked.

 

blandb_0-1699459788464.png

 

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