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Slider joint

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Message 1 of 15
chachaman
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Slider joint

Hello,

I cannot figure out how to place a joint slider constraint instead of a regular constraint to make this slat ride in the track....can some one help ?

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Message 2 of 15
JDMather
in reply to: chachaman

No assembly (*.iam) attempt attached?

 

Also, Flat Slat drawing is incorrect?


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Message 3 of 15
chachaman
in reply to: JDMather

....you wanted  to see this assembly ?

Message 4 of 15
JDMather
in reply to: chachaman

Didn't you already post that image in the original problem description?

 

An Inventor Assembly file is of the format *.iam .


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Message 5 of 15
chachaman
in reply to: JDMather

Sorry,

 

Here is the iam file...

Message 6 of 15
JDMather
in reply to: chachaman

What is your end-goal with this?

 


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Message 7 of 15
JDMather
in reply to: chachaman

I assume this part is simplified as there is an interference when assembled?

 

I would do this portion as a sub-assembly (assuming the planar faces stay parallel).

 

Sub-Assembly.PNG


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Message 8 of 15
chachaman
in reply to: JDMather

it gets assembled like this....accept the constraints I am using make it unstable...

Message 9 of 15
JDMather
in reply to: chachaman

Why have you attached the same image 3 times?

 

Why do you want to wind it up?

To see if it fits?

To show an animation?

 


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Message 10 of 15
chachaman
in reply to: JDMather

Once again, these are all the files....

Message 11 of 15
johnsonshiue
in reply to: chachaman

Hi! I don't think Slider Joint in Inventor will produce the desirable motion you are looking for. Your best bet is Transitional constraint. There is a trick. You want to limit the scope of transitioning. In the rail part (trk.ipt), you can use Thicken/Offset command to create a zero offset surface on the contact faces. Then you need to edit the transitional constraints so that the transition is between the rods and the offset surface instead. In this way, you will limit the transition scope. Otherwise, Inventor will try to transition components to any faces on the rail part. 

I would not be surprised that the some of the transitional constraints would fail. Another option is to use Dynamic Simulation environment.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 12 of 15
chachaman
in reply to: johnsonshiue

Hello Johnson,

Thank you for your reply. Is this what you mean ?....please see attachment.

Message 13 of 15
chachaman
in reply to: chachaman

Hello Johnson,

I did like you suggested. Attached is a simplified assembly. Can you tell me why the pin does not stop at the end of the transitional course ?

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Solved !

Answer: Beacuse the radius of the end of the course must be greater than the diameter of the pin.

Message 14 of 15
johnsonshiue
in reply to: chachaman

Hi! You mean the jumping behavior, right? I think that is trick. It is because for the constraint solver's perspective such jump does not violate the constraint. But, the behavior is unintuitive for sure. I don't think there is good workflow in constraining to create the desirable movements.

Many thanks!



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Software Test Engineer
Message 15 of 15
chachaman
in reply to: JDMather

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