Saving a part with 2 different mounting options

[Anonymous]

I have a part that is going to be mounted by 2 seperate methods. This means that I need to finish the part with 1 mounting arrangement, save it.........Then I need to open that same part and alter the mounting arrangement, and save it as a 2nd part. Can I do this without it updating the original?
I was going to attempt to build the main part, the 1st mounting as a part, and the 2nd mounting as a part, and then make two seperate assemblies, but I would have to do some additional work within the assembly, and as far as I can recall you can only subtract material in an iam, not add material.
Any advice?
INV 09

[Anonymous]

I have a part that is going to be mounted by 2 seperate methods. This means that I need to finish the part with 1 mounting arrangement, save it.........Then I need to open that same part and alter the mounting arrangement, and save it as a 2nd part. Can I do this without it updating the original?
I was going to attempt to build the main part, the 1st mounting as a part, and the 2nd mounting as a part, and then make two seperate assemblies, but I would have to do some additional work within the assembly, and as far as I can recall you can only subtract material in an iam, not add material.
Any advice?
INV 09

[Anonymous]

Create a part without ANY mounting features. Derive the part and add one
mount. Derive a second from the original and create the second mount.

Change the original and both derives will update.


Alternatively, make your part an iPart with both mounts suppressed.
Determine which one on instertion.

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wrote in message news:6025684@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a part that is going to be mounted by 2 seperate methods. This means
that I need to finish the part with 1 mounting arrangement, save
it.........Then I need to open that same part and alter the mounting
arrangement, and save it as a 2nd part. Can I do this without it updating
the original?
I was going to attempt to build the main part, the 1st mounting as a part,
and the 2nd mounting as a part, and then make two seperate assemblies, but I
would have to do some additional work within the assembly, and as far as I
can recall you can only subtract material in an iam, not add material.
Any advice?
INV 09

[Anonymous]

Create a part without ANY mounting features. Derive the part and add one
mount. Derive a second from the original and create the second mount.

Change the original and both derives will update.


Alternatively, make your part an iPart with both mounts suppressed.
Determine which one on instertion.

--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
AIP 2008 SP2, AIP 2009 PcCillin AV
HP zv5000 AMD64 2GB
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185
XP Pro SP2, Windows XP Silver Theme
http://teknigroup.com
wrote in message news:6025684@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a part that is going to be mounted by 2 seperate methods. This means
that I need to finish the part with 1 mounting arrangement, save
it.........Then I need to open that same part and alter the mounting
arrangement, and save it as a 2nd part. Can I do this without it updating
the original?
I was going to attempt to build the main part, the 1st mounting as a part,
and the 2nd mounting as a part, and then make two seperate assemblies, but I
would have to do some additional work within the assembly, and as far as I
can recall you can only subtract material in an iam, not add material.
Any advice?
INV 09

[Curtis_Waguespack]

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a simple "save as" or "save copy as" will allow you to create 2 variations with no link between the files.

or you could make an ipart and suppress/unsupress features as required

[Curtis_Waguespack]

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a simple "save as" or "save copy as" will allow you to create 2 variations with no link between the files.

or you could make an ipart and suppress/unsupress features as required

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the help!
Seems like Deriving always seems to simplify things 🙂

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the help!
Seems like Deriving always seems to simplify things 🙂

[dan_inv09]

What are you adding? How would you add it in the shop? You should think about how you make it in the real world and try to do it the same way in inventor.

Let's say you have a casting with an extra nub in part 2 that gets machined off in part 1 then you should build your base part for 2 and add the extra cut in 1. Or you could machine everything that's common between the two, then derive the separate parts. Or better yet, make a part for the raw casting and derive (or put it in an assembly) it for 1 and 2 for the machining (or the common machining and then again for 1 and 2).

If you are actually adding material for part 2 do it the way it is done, make another part and weld it on in the assembly.

Do you have pictures? It would be easier to address your specific situation if we could see it.

[dan_inv09]

What are you adding? How would you add it in the shop? You should think about how you make it in the real world and try to do it the same way in inventor.

Let's say you have a casting with an extra nub in part 2 that gets machined off in part 1 then you should build your base part for 2 and add the extra cut in 1. Or you could machine everything that's common between the two, then derive the separate parts. Or better yet, make a part for the raw casting and derive (or put it in an assembly) it for 1 and 2 for the machining (or the common machining and then again for 1 and 2).

If you are actually adding material for part 2 do it the way it is done, make another part and weld it on in the assembly.

Do you have pictures? It would be easier to address your specific situation if we could see it.

[Anonymous]

I do not have any pics. I have a 2d drawing that I am going by.

[Anonymous]

I do not have any pics. I have a 2d drawing that I am going by.

[dan_inv09]

I meant something like a screen capture of the part in Inventor.

Posting the part itself would be even better. I personally can't download it, but others could give you more help working directly with your part. make sure you've read JD's paper first or he'll have to explain basic modeling techniques for a while before he can get to the actual issue, I can't find the link right now, maybe someone else has it handy.

[dan_inv09]

I meant something like a screen capture of the part in Inventor.

Posting the part itself would be even better. I personally can't download it, but others could give you more help working directly with your part. make sure you've read JD's paper first or he'll have to explain basic modeling techniques for a while before he can get to the actual issue, I can't find the link right now, maybe someone else has it handy.

[Anonymous]

How would I go about posting that

[Anonymous]

How would I go about posting that

[dan_inv09]

Alt+Print Screen
New in Paint
Paste
(You can use paint to blank out stuff you don't want us to see, or add notes etc.)
Save - set the Save as type to jpeg
Then use the Attach File button

[dan_inv09]

Alt+Print Screen
New in Paint
Paste
(You can use paint to blank out stuff you don't want us to see, or add notes etc.)
Save - set the Save as type to jpeg
Then use the Attach File button