problem with sweep a closed loop rectangle

problem with sweep a closed loop rectangle

slv.modd
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problem with sweep a closed loop rectangle

slv.modd
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Can anyone help me with this issue ?

I need to sweep one arc along a rectangle and get this error....see attached pic. sometimes I get the volume but sometimes fail...same is in Fusion 360 !sweep error.jpg

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johnsonshiue
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Hi! It should work. Could you attach the part file? I would like to take a look at the file and understand the behavior better.

Many thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
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jhackney1972
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You did not supply your model and you did not say what type of line makes up the top of your profile.  I am guessing it is a spline and that is why you are having issues.  If you constrain the vertical profile line to the center of the rectangle, like your should, it will fail.  If you move it off center ever so slightly, no issues.  If you use an arc, probably three point, you can constraint it to center without issue.  I cannot explain why a spline fails in this situation.  I used to design tank ends and fought it all the time.  See screencast.

 

 

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TheCADWhisperer
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Is there a logical reason that you have not fully defined your sketches?

Is there a logical reason for Workplane1?

 

Can you File>Export and then Attach your *.f3d file here that fails?

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slv.modd
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@jhackney1972 - thank you for post

regarding this "If you move it off center ever so slightly, no issues.  If you use an arc, probably three point, you can constraint it to center without issue.  I cannot explain why a spline fails in this situation. " If I did this every time I think I must patch each time the center of the body after sweep...Hmmm, is not that a glitch ?!

For other - unfortunate I was frustrated of this behaviour and not save the failed file, I will try again today and attached the file.

 

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slv.modd
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Here you have one attached file.

If the vertical line of the profile is placed on the midd of the rectangle then the sweep will fail; like @jhackney1972 already said....If the curved line of the profile is one arc (instead spline) then the sweep will be OK.

soline sweep error.jpg

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TheCADWhisperer
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@slv.modd

 

What exactly are you attempting to model?
The part does not look aesthetically pleasing to me (see attached).

 

I suspect that I would probably use Loft to Point (or maybe Boundary Patch) for whatever it is you are attempting to model.

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slv.modd
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So, CAD whisperer

Instead one operation I must do 4.....and glitch is solved ! Smiley Surprised

About "aesthetically look", I accidentally fall on this, when I intend to do some frames.

Sorry, I'm beginner and have no experience ,.... regard to please you.

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johnsonshiue
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Hi! I took a look at the parts. I believe there is indeed a bug or a limitation here. The spline profile exhibits inconsistent behavior. If you set the output type to Solid, the sweep will fail. But, if you set it to Surface, the sweep will work but some faces are not trimmed properly. I will work with the project team to understand the behavior better.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
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kelly.young
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Hello @slv.modd thanks for attaching your parts.

 

Attached is a different approach with simple commands to achieve the same result.

 

ExtrudeBetween.png

 

Lots of different ways to go about modeling! Hope that helps.

 

Please select the Accept as Solution button if a post solves your issue or answers your question.

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slv.modd
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@Anonymous

Thank you for reply.

I believe that Inventor or Fusion 360 are great softwares, and we are here to points problems in the ideea to improve it, not to blame it or errors hunting ...

I'm certain this will be solved in some how in to the future.

In regard of other ways to solve this small sweep bug - I'm sure there is multiple ways to do it or to cure .So thank's on all for posted tips .

Mean time I will accept @jhackney1972 as  solution, it is the most easy to do.