Planes: A Story of Poop

[janelson33]

What the frick is wrong with planes in this software?

Give me a 5 good reasons why I can define a plane discretely, but not fix it discretely???? (<- that's the problem btw....)

Seriously, what the frick is wrong with whomever's thoughts those are???

"Hey dude, I know you selected this button that says Offset from Plane, but my parametrics are trash and now you have to redefine me. OH! And frick you you can't do it the same way."

Are y'all sure you're not in the business of just wasting people's time because Autodesk is public and 1/4 to 1/4 wins out?

Has ANYONE used the Solidworks plane tool??

This is so gosh darn stupid I should take your jobs.

[rhasell]

Perhaps if you actually post your problem people might actually try and help you. All that swearing and complaining will get you nowhere.

I do not know Solidworks, but over the years of being on the forums and reading the various "Comparison" complaints... "Solidworks is so much better blah blah blah", all it takes is a little mindset change and you will discover that Inventor is similar, and in most instances better than Solidworks, sure, each program can do some things better than the other, that's the nature of the beast.

I must admit this is the first post where I have seen someone offer to replace the Autodesk design team, kudos to you.

Trying to decipher your post, I don't think the problem is with the workplanes, the problem is with the parameters.

[janelson33]

Stating you've never used Solidworks whilst saying Inventor is superior in the end is not too credible, but I always commend bravery. Did you know Dassault has implemented a lot of what made Inventor somewhat more cool?

I've specifically compared the CAD suites for these cool aspects as I want reliable CAD at home and I am completely over how poorly Inventor has performed for me over these last 6 years on this company rig: The amount of time spent creating these post alone is insane lol! I've used Siemens' NX too, so I'm likely credible enough to be complaining about UI, if working with Inventor for 6 years didn't lend to that.

Here's some links on Solidworks' plane creation tool: It's great to step outside the echo chamber from time-to-time. Why is the consideration to add reliable value to a current offering bad, ya know?

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkb_1MXSqYU 
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNd5efDKB34

Anyways, another part fricked-off today for no reason as you'll see in the ~7.5 minute Screencast attached. This is exactly what happened to me yesterday. The part number on McMaster-Carr is 3861T22 if anyone would like to try this from a fresh imported part and certify the software as insane too.

[andrewdroth]

This is a fantastic post!

I think it's because the face is skewed in the part, look at the edge of the radius. I blame the shoddy model from Mc-Master.

Why not just define your workplane using the XY origin plane? I think that's better practice anyhow.

[andrewdroth]

Like this!

[andrewdroth]

As an example, lets assume I want a workplane at the tip of this poop. If i define it using the tip and the surface at the tip the resulting workplane won't be aligned with the origin as it's normal to the poops tip.

If I want to make it square to the UCS I need to define it that way.

[Frederick_Law]

Did you just poop on someone else poop?

[JDMather]

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@janelson33 wrote:

Stating you've never used Solidworks whilst saying Inventor is superior in the end is not too credible...

I have used both on a daily basis for more than 15 yrs.

Certified Professional using both.

I don't understand why you have so much difficulty.

[johnsonshiue]

Hi Jarott,

I see the issue without the need to get the file. This has something to do with how Inventor determines the coordinate system for the workplane. Do you notice that the fillet adjacent to the planar face has a weird seam at 1 o'clock? The part was modeled in a weird way though. Try this. Use Delete Face -> check Heal -> pick the fillet face. The fillet face will be removed. Next, create the same workplane. Its orientation will be orthogonal to XYZ.

Based on your postings, I know you are frustrated with Inventor. Inventor is a tool of choice. It has fair share of issues just like any product in the market. However, if it keeps causing you so much trouble, you should not be using it. I personally would not do it.

You do raise good issues and questions. I fully appreciate it. What I don't appreciate is the offensive language you use. It may sound funny. But, try swapping the objective to you and see if you like it.

This forum is to encourage users to help each other. I don't think this type of communication helps other users understand the issue.

Many thanks!