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IDW to DWG conversion

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Anonymous
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‎10-27-2008 10:03 AM
‎10-27-2008 10:03 AM

IDW to DWG conversion

Hi,

When I convert IDW file (from INVENTOR2009) to DWG, I would like to have the "cartouche"and the "frame lines" in the "presentation" tab.
Is it possible?
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Anonymous
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‎10-27-2008 10:42 AM
‎10-27-2008 10:42 AM


When you Save Copy As to dwg, all objects are placed in Model
Space. You could create a view in Layout space.


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‎10-27-2008 11:38 AM
‎10-27-2008 11:38 AM


You can create Inventor dwg's instead of idw's. The Inventor
dwg will open in AutoCAD with the views in layout space.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Hi,
When I convert IDW file (from INVENTOR2009) to DWG, I would like to have the
"cartouche"and the "frame lines" in the "presentation" tab. Is it
possible?
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Anonymous
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‎10-28-2008 03:55 AM
‎10-28-2008 03:55 AM

Thank you Dennis and Ray.
Unfortunately, our customer Arcelor Mittal provides us a template that we have to scrupulously follow (AUTOCAD2000 format, specific layers for specific lines, defined cartouche in the layout space,...) and we already have ~300 IDW drawings to convert.
Joinded is this famous .dwt from our customer.
We have now to learn how to use INVERTOR DWG file instead of IDW for our future projects. Are they different for INVENTOR?

So, if it's not possible to put the cartouche itself in the layout space, is it possible to use information from the INVENTOR cartouche and put them in specific cells that we could use in the dwg "cartouche"?
Additionally, on the DWG converted file, we have some issues.
The most important is that tolerances doesn't appear on the DWG file even they exist on the IDW file. How can we solve that?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Lionel
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Anonymous
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‎10-28-2008 04:29 AM
‎10-28-2008 04:29 AM


Here's a link that may help get you started.

 



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‎10-28-2008 05:25 AM
‎10-28-2008 05:25 AM

Dear Dennis,

We are using these settings and issues are already there.
Joined are a IDW and its converted DWG file.
I've joined also the .ini, .xml and .dwt files used for the conversion.
Please have a look and tell me how to solve that.

Thanks

Lionel
test IDW to DWG.zip
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Anonymous
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‎10-28-2008 06:15 AM
‎10-28-2008 06:15 AM


Your DWT template layers do not match the Layers and Object
Default mapping in the Inventor IDW that you attached. The DWT has 21 layers
total, but the Styles cached in the IDW file have many more, and do not match
the dwt template being used.

 

I exported your IDW using the default ACADISO.dwt and got the
attached image of the new layer list in the dwg. This list shows that these are
the only layers that were exported from the IDW to an AutoCAD DWG.

 

Typically, I will get the layer mapping right in the Inventor,
along with mapping the object defaults to the desired layer. Those IDW layers
must possess the same layer colors as your Mittel template. I noticed that your
title block in the IDW file does not have the colors properly applied to the
layers compared to the Mittel template.


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‎10-28-2008 09:12 AM
‎10-28-2008 09:12 AM

Dear Dennis,

I believed that the .xml file was specially generated for the conversion from IDW to DWG file and we've completed it in order to fulfill the customer requirement. So, I thing that the layer transfer is correct but our issue is only on tolerance information.
Have you noticed that on dwg extracted file, the tolerence did not apear for the lenght of the cylinder (not on the diameter as these tolerences came from automatic tolerences (Ø100G6...)).
We have noticed that we have to change the dimscale of the extracted file and put the vallue: 1/(10*Inventor scale). Why? Can we find a way to include this in the conversion process?

Thanks and best regards

Lionel
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Anonymous
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‎10-28-2008 09:30 AM
‎10-28-2008 09:30 AM


I do not understand. Here are images from your original files
showing the same tolerance values on cylinder length.


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‎10-28-2008 09:32 AM
‎10-28-2008 09:32 AM


Have you tried changing the DIMSCALE in your dwt template
prior to using it?


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‎10-28-2008 09:44 AM
‎10-28-2008 09:44 AM

Sorry, impossible to open your jpg file but the issue apear only when you upgrade quote (after a dimscale for ex., I don't know the name of this button in english; "mettre à jour la quote" in french).
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Anonymous
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‎10-28-2008 09:47 AM
‎10-28-2008 09:47 AM

The scale of the IDW drawing change from one drawing to an other.
So impossible to configure one dimscale for all drawings...
For me, even we can not convert in the proper scale, we should be able to use dirrectly the inventor scale instead of this formula (1/(10*scale)).

Best regards

Lionel
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Anonymous
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‎10-28-2008 09:56 AM
‎10-28-2008 09:56 AM


I printed both the ACAD dwg and the IDW and the Dimension
values and size is identical on both prints. Yes, if I change dimscale then the
tolerances are lost. Why would you change dimscale after export?


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Anonymous
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‎10-28-2008 10:26 AM
‎10-28-2008 10:26 AM


In Inventor the views may scale, but the dimension does not.
Dimension size is constant as determined by the Style.


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Anonymous
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‎10-30-2008 05:10 AM
‎10-30-2008 05:10 AM

Hi Dennis,

Sorry for this 1day brief interruption.
When you open the dwg for the first time after a conversion, the result appear as a good result.
If you upgrade the quote now (just one click on this button, no changes at all), the result is not as good as the initial one (tolerances disappear, wrong dimscale,...)
So, if my customer want to change my drawing later, he will have to upgrade the whole drawing.
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Anonymous
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‎10-30-2008 06:59 AM
‎10-30-2008 06:59 AM


If the tolerance dimension is created using an override
instead of a different style, then the tolerance WILL dissapear in
AutoCAD.Create a tolerance style in Inventor, then add that to your export
template.


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