Hole Note Tolerances

[karthur1]

A couple questions about hole notes in an idw:
1. How do I get the model tolerances to be displayed in the hole note? I know how to add a tolerance to the note, but I already have the tolerance in the model.
2. Can I have mixed tolerances in the hole note, sSuch as, fractions for the ctbr diameter and 2plc decimal for the depth?

R9, sp4

[Anonymous]

> 1. How do I get the model tolerances to be displayed in the hole note? I know how to
> add a tolerance to the note, but I already have the tolerance in the model.

I think the only way to get model tolerances to carry over to drawings is by using "Retreive dimensions".

> 2. Can I have mixed tolerances in the hole note, sSuch as, fractions for the
> ctbr diameter and 2plc decimal for the depth?

This was asked in the past week or two and if I recall, the answer is no, you can't mix 'em.

[karthur1]

"Retrieve dimensions" doesn't play very nice with holes.

[Anonymous]

1 - edit hole note or associative dim style, go to the precision and
tolerance dialog, select "Use Part Tolerance"

2 - no support for mixing decimal and fractional display on one note

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Andrew Faix
Product Designer - Inventor Drawing Manager
Autodesk


wrote in message news:5003028@discussion.autodesk.com...
> 1. How do I get the model tolerances to be displayed in the hole note? I
> know how to
> add a tolerance to the note, but I already have the tolerance in the
> model.

I think the only way to get model tolerances to carry over to drawings is by
using "Retreive dimensions".

> 2. Can I have mixed tolerances in the hole note, sSuch as, fractions for
> the
> ctbr diameter and 2plc decimal for the depth?

This was asked in the past week or two and if I recall, the answer is no,
you can't mix 'em.

[karthur1]

"Use Part Tolerance" gets the tolerances... but it gets ALL of them. For instance on a CTBR hole, I would like to have the Ctbr diamter toleranced, but the Ctbr depth and clearance hole diameter not toleranced....

Is this possible?

Any improvements in R10?

Thanks

[Anonymous]

Oh, sorry, didn't realize you were on R9.

Yes, many improvements in R10, all hole parameters can be toleranced as you
describe.

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Andrew Faix
Product Designer - Inventor Drawing Manager
Autodesk
wrote in message news:5003210@discussion.autodesk.com...
"Use Part Tolerance" gets the tolerances... but it gets ALL of them. For
instance on a CTBR hole, I would like to have the Ctbr diamter toleranced,
but the Ctbr depth and clearance hole diameter not toleranced....

Is this possible?

Any improvements in R10?

Thanks

[Anonymous]

...and how exactly do you mix decimal and fractional tolerances in hole notes in Inventor 10? In the style editor I can choose on or the other, not both.

I'd like the hole diameter to be decimal and the depth fractional or sometines vice versa depending on the application.

[Anonymous]

So, this all started in 2005... has Autodesk come up w/ a simple solution to this very obvious problem yet, or is 13 years too aggressive a timeline to expect to see this hashed out?

[johnsonshiue]

Hi Michael,

This is a very old thread. You may want to start a new thread. In terms of "obvious problem", could you elaborate a bit? Is it about the fact that no mixed tolerance styles can be displayed or the tolerance cannot be selectively annotated?

Many thanks!

[Anonymous]

The problem is that you can't specify, say, a .250 dia hole (with a "titleblock tolerance" of ±.010) with a 3/4" ("titleblock tolerance" of ±1/32) depth, without like 12 mouse clicks and manually entering one of the tolerances.

Another example, you can't spec a 3/4" clearance counterbore with a .250 thru alignment hole without:

1. Editing (double-clicking... so that's 2) the hole note
2. clicking on "Precision & Tols"
3. Unchecking Global Precision
4. Fixing the primary value precision (for all features... 4a, 4b, 4c... 3 clicks)
5. Checking the "Tolerances" checkbox you need to change
6. Picking the Tol Method
7. Fixing the Tolerance Precision
8. Entering the decimal conversion for your standard fractional dimension tolerance
9. Clicking OK
10. Clicking OK again

The point of boiler-plate tolerances is to reduce your work.  This is a super common situation, with multiple applications, and rather than see more "state of the art" features I have no application for, I'd love to see an efficient hole note.

[johnsonshiue]

Hi Michael,

I think I understand it now. It is about the mixed format of tolerance and dimension (fraction and decimal). I could wrong but I have not heard similar request often. Please bear with me. Does it comply drawing standard?

Many thanks!

[karthur1]

Michael,

The workflow that you described is how we do it today.  Its a pain, I know.  You will wear out the left button on a good mouse.  If the format that you describe is common for you, you may could create that style and save it back to your standards library.

It would be nice if the "Copy Properties" tool (like on linear dimensions) worked on hole notes as well.  That could save some time.

WOW, has it really been 13 years!!

Kirk