Frame generator BOM balloon and grouping same items

Frame generator BOM balloon and grouping same items

KebisB
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Frame generator BOM balloon and grouping same items

KebisB
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Hello guys, I tried so much, but have I lost all ideas ...

The thing is, that I would like to modify my Cut-list (part list) that it would group same frames together under one position number, and I found couple of options for that, but its just NOT as I would like to have it.

there is options like "same part number with type, mass and lenght" or grouping with 1st key <lenght> and 2nd key <mass> for example,

but in both of these options there is a problem with mittered frames that looks similar but are "mirrored" so they are not the same...

I would like to have same frames as one position number with the same part number and with all the atributes like type, mass, lenght,  but if they are mirrored I need them as 2 different BOM position. 
for better understading, see picture 1

I would like to have  POS 1 and 4 as one position number for both, with QTY (MNOŽ. in my table) of 2 as it is, as long they are the same, but if I would make a hole into one, I need them separately (with <mass> in part number I can manage this) but... if I make generating tubes like that, there will be problem with POS 2 and 5, because their parameteres are also the same but they are not, they are mirrored so it cant be with one POS number... check picture no. 2

 

and second question connected to Frame joining through frame generator with trim or mitter,
does anyone knows if its possible to make mitter/trim/notch parameter by my own word in every language for all Inventor language mutations in our company? so it would generates these parameters in all languages in our company the same? because right know in ENG inventor it generates parameter "CUTDETAIL1" - "Miter 45.00 deg" but in for example Czech language inventor "Vyjmout detail 1" - "Pokos 45.00 deg"  so Im not able to create one cutlist for all inventor language mutations. btw, I dont like any of these predefined, I would like to make it generate my own word for these operations, is it possible to make it in some kind of "frame generator styles" that in every language joining frames with "mitter" will create parameter "CUT" - "45st." or what so ever? 

 

If its not understandable what I mean, tell me please, I will try to describe it better in comments 🙂 sorry for my english, not native 

 

Thank you very much for any advice

 

picture 1

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picture 2

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blandb
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In the parts list have you looked at using "Item Quantity" instead?

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KebisB
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"item quantity" is "množ." in my language 🙂 it has nothing to do with my problem , I need solve grouping of same tubes, but cant be grouped together if they are mirrored like  POS 2 and 5... u cant replace them one by other but they are grouped together in picture 2 however POS 1 and 4 are replaceable for example and is not grouped in picture 1... I need to get resolut that 2 and 5 are different BOM positions and 1 and 4 are under one position number in meanwhile in the same part list 

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blandb
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Grouping is based in part number. If you used the reuse then the part numbers would be the same. If you placed individually you will need to make the part numbers the same and it will then group them together. As long ad they are truly the same you will not get a varies in any fields. 

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