Drawings - Sketches in Sheet Formats and Templates Gone

[Rhowell8UR9F]

I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong so I'm posting here before I submit an idea. Will post screencast when approved.

Basically, I have a sketch that I make of the border to which I add lines and labels to essentially create boxes around different sets of views. What I do is I create a sketch on a sheet, set the (0, 0) point down and fix it, then create a sketch only rectangle that matches the border. Then within that border I add lines that aren't sketch only around the views I've placed on my sheet. It's clean and works well for what I need.

The problem is that it deletes that initial sketch when I open the drawing as a template or even try and save the sheet format and create a new sheet with that sketch on it. All sheet sketches are lost when opening a template or creating a new sheet based on a saved format.

I don't want to make this a sketch symbol because I would like to edit it with the views visible. I also don't want to attach it to the border sketch for the same reason and because the initial sketch is standard but the lines that are added to it are not.

[Rhowell8UR9F]

I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong so I'm posting here before I submit an idea. Will post screencast when approved.

Basically, I have a sketch that I make of the border to which I add lines and labels to essentially create boxes around different sets of views. What I do is I create a sketch on a sheet, set the (0, 0) point down and fix it, then create a sketch only rectangle that matches the border. Then within that border I add lines that aren't sketch only around the views I've placed on my sheet. It's clean and works well for what I need.

The problem is that it deletes that initial sketch when I open the drawing as a template or even try and save the sheet format and create a new sheet with that sketch on it. All sheet sketches are lost when opening a template or creating a new sheet based on a saved format.

I don't want to make this a sketch symbol because I would like to edit it with the views visible. I also don't want to attach it to the border sketch for the same reason and because the initial sketch is standard but the lines that are added to it are not.

[SharkDesign]

Yep, this is the way it works. 

Interestingly, if you open the template file again, the sketches are there, but when creating a new file from that template they are gone. 

Even more interesting is that when picking the template on new file creation, you can even see your sketches in the preview window, but gone when the document opens. 

Only real option is to create a drawing with your sketches, then in Windows, change the property to 'read only' to stop it getting written over by mistake and just open that file and do a save as each time.

[SharkDesign]

Yep, this is the way it works. 

Interestingly, if you open the template file again, the sketches are there, but when creating a new file from that template they are gone. 

Even more interesting is that when picking the template on new file creation, you can even see your sketches in the preview window, but gone when the document opens. 

Only real option is to create a drawing with your sketches, then in Windows, change the property to 'read only' to stop it getting written over by mistake and just open that file and do a save as each time.

[JDMather]

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@SharkDesign wrote:

Even more interesting is that when picking the template on new file creation, you can even see your sketches in the preview window, but gone when the document opens. 

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Actually not very interesting at all.

I had to explain this over and over back in the last century to AutoCAD users.

The preview window is no indication of what is in the file - in fact you can create any Preview Picture you want.

It is merely a small screenshot bitmap captured at some point (or added by designer).

Note that you can Capture a thumbnail preview image or import an image if you like.

[JDMather]

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@SharkDesign wrote:

Even more interesting is that when picking the template on new file creation, you can even see your sketches in the preview window, but gone when the document opens. 

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Actually not very interesting at all.

I had to explain this over and over back in the last century to AutoCAD users.

The preview window is no indication of what is in the file - in fact you can create any Preview Picture you want.

It is merely a small screenshot bitmap captured at some point (or added by designer).

Note that you can Capture a thumbnail preview image or import an image if you like.

[SharkDesign]

Haha, good point!

[SharkDesign]

Haha, good point!

[Rhowell8UR9F]

I would definitely like to be able to maintain sheet sketches. Anyway, instead I just created a script that makes the sketch on new document anyway. Hooray for hobbyist programming!

[Rhowell8UR9F]

I would definitely like to be able to maintain sheet sketches. Anyway, instead I just created a script that makes the sketch on new document anyway. Hooray for hobbyist programming!

[i.rudd]

I also have a simmilar problem. 

I will turn what I have sketched into a symbol. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to know if there is a way of keeping the sketches of the template when creating new drawing.

Regards,

[i.rudd]

I also have a simmilar problem. 

I will turn what I have sketched into a symbol. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to know if there is a way of keeping the sketches of the template when creating new drawing.

Regards,

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! I am not aware of a way to retain a drawing sketch in the template. I think you may want to create a sketch symbol instead. It is not a drawing sketch however.

Many thanks!

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! I am not aware of a way to retain a drawing sketch in the template. I think you may want to create a sketch symbol instead. It is not a drawing sketch however.

Many thanks!

[HermJan.Otterman · Accepted solution]

instead of using the drawing as a template, you can copy it, give it a new name and then the drawingSketches are still there... 

[HermJan.Otterman · Accepted solution]

instead of using the drawing as a template, you can copy it, give it a new name and then the drawingSketches are still there...