You changed project files accidentally?
No
Have you restarted your computer?
Yes
How do you know they are read only?
See attached:
I cannot make any BOM modifications to the Custom CC parts that I made.
I checked the project file and the library is still R/W the .ipt files are R/W and the actual library is R/W. All of the parts that I changed to phantom have been automatically clanged to purchased.
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Created a new assembly and placed some content center parts. Both Custom and Standard parts show up read only in the BOM.
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Several things that you are misunderstanding:
1. The Read-only/Read-Write settings in your project file do not apply to Content Center; they apply to your Styles Library, and Material/Appearance libraries
2. All Content Center parts that are placed as Standard are not editable as long as the active project file has that location designated as the Content Center destination; that is, the project file setting for Content Center Files is the destination for Content Center files (placed as Standard), and that location is read-only
3. Items that are placed in an assembly have no memory of what project was active when they were placed, so there is no need to worry about accidentally using the wrong project, with one exception: the destination folder for Standard Content Center parts might be different, so parts could end up in a different folder from the intended one.
All this is by design, with the assumption that standard fasteners are not meant to be edited.
Two ways to get around this restriction:
1. Set up another project that does not have that location set as the Content Center Files location; make this project active, then open the assembly and edit your BOM as you please
2. Instead of placing your Content Center parts as Standard, place as Custom; this will then ask for filename and path, and you can save it to a folder that is not treated as read-only; note that Auto-drop assumes placing Standard, so cannot be used with this technique
Hope this helps,
Sam B
Inventor Pro 2019.0.1 | Windows 7 SP1
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Hello ngen33r,
Are you using the Windows 10 Fall creator's update or later update? If so, it seems that Windows 10 security policy that anything locate to System driver is well-protected.
Please try followings.
*Locate my library to any other driver other than system one.
*Get the administrator to full control system driver.
*Run as Administrator with RMB.
Thanks,
Hi! Like Sam said, the behavior is possibly due to the fact that the CC parts are placed in Library folder or Content Center folder in the active project. If you want to be able to edit these custom CC parts, you will need to place them in a non-Library folder.
Many thanks!
Thank You for the replies. It is not that I need to edit the parts, I need to edit the BOM so I can set some parts to phantom. The option in the part file does not have the phantom option it is only available in the BOM and that does not explain why one project allows them to be set and another does not.
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Can one of you maybe point out what needs to be changed to make the new project file work so the BOM can be modified and the content center files can be used and shared. A:\ is a shared network drive. I am trying to get IT to install Vault but that will take 4 months so for now I need this to work.
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@Anonymous wrote:
Thank You for the replies. It is not that I need to edit the parts, I need to edit the BOM so I can set some parts to phantom. The option in the part file does not have the phantom option it is only available in the BOM and that does not explain why one project allows them to be set and another does not.
Hi! I think I know what you are talking about. The BOM Structure attribute for any given occurrence can be controlled in two levels. One is at the component (part/assembly) document level. This setting is stored in Tools -> Document Settings -> BOM. It is changing the default BOM structure for the given component (all occurrences of this component has the same default to begin with). Normal, Purchased, Inseparable, Reference, and Phantom are all available there. You can also change it within BOM table but the change is saved back to individual component files.
The second level to control occurrence BOM Structure is within the assembly. Each occurrence can have its own BOM Structure different than the default BOM Structure set in Document Settings. Only Default and Reference are available here. It is because this level of control allows users to include o exclude a given occurrence on the BOM table.
Regarding your second question, I don't think you should use absolute path as \Workspace\. It has to be a relative path in a given project folder.
Many thanks!
Please go back over my post above-- Content Center parts placed as Standard automatically go to the Content Center Files location specified by your active project (that's what that setting is for). That location is treated as a library, so while that project is active, parts in that folder are read-only. That includes the BOM Structure setting, which is a property of the component file, not of the assembly.
As you can see, your two project files have different Content Center Files locations. If the fasteners are placed while the first one is active, and then you activate the second one, you will be able to edit them, because their location is no longer defined as read-only. This is the workaround technique I described in #1 in my first post.
When you have things set so you can edit CC files, you can change the BOM Structure to Phantom either in the assembly's BOM Manager, or by opening the file and accessing Document Settings > BOM Structure tab. As I said above, this setting is stored in the part file, not in the assembly.
Finally, I see that in both projects you have defined a Library to point to the location of the Content Libraries. This is unnecessary and useless. There should be no parts in this location, only the libraries themselves; this location is defined by Application Options > Content Center > Inventor Desktop Content > Location of libraries.
Sam B
Inventor Pro 2019.0.1 | Windows 7 SP1
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Well, I can't pretend to speak for the developers who originally created the Content Library functionality, but it's very clear that this is a fundamental part of the design, not a bug or pain or something that needs to be fixed. Standard fasteners are supposed to be standard, to not change, so this setup helps to enforce that.
At my previous workplace we had a custom add-in to apply part numbers for each project, and it was able to edit the iproperties and document properties of Content Center parts, though it probably shouldn't have been able to do that. After implementing Vault, we finally got smart and assigned unchanging part numbers to thousands of standard fasteners so that we never had to mess with this again. Now the only customized placements we did were for fasteners that were not in our list: different materials, odd lengths, etc., and these simply went into our normal purchased parts location, per project.
Hope this helps,
Sam B
Inventor Pro 2019.0.1 | Windows 7 SP1
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Hi! The BOM is not linked to a project. If possible, please try reading the replies I wrote to you. I hope they have provided some clarity.
The reason why the project on the right works but the project on the left fails is because how Workspace and Library paths are set up. The one on the right has Workspace folder and Library folder at the same level. The two are sort of independent of each other. Components in Library folder cannot be edited, while the ones in Workspace folder can be edited.
The project on the left has Library folder nested under Workspace folder, which is wrong, however. This creates a conflicting folder structure. All components under Workspace should be editable but the ones in Library folders are off reach.
In order to edit files in Library folder, you will need to create a different project which points to these Library folders as Workspace. You can simply remove those Library folders from the project on the left, since the Workspace encompasses everything already.
Many thanks!
In addition to what @johnsonshiue wrote, I want to clarify one other thing: when you are changing iProperties and BOM structure in the assembly's BOM Manager (except changing from Default to Reference and back), you are actually editing the components. This is why the standard fasteners from the Content Center are gray (disabled)-- they are read-only, and so you can't edit them.
The BOM isn't linked to any project file, but the BOM Manager obeys the active project file settings, as one would expect. Unfortunately for your particular case, that isn't helpful.
Sam B
Inventor Pro 2019.0.1 | Windows 7 SP1
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