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Authoring Ductwork as Custom Tube and Pipe Style

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e_frissell
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Authoring Ductwork as Custom Tube and Pipe Style

e_frissell
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Hey guys, asking this because I've exhausted every friggin resource on the internet regarding how to make a custom tube and pipe style.  Either the resource gets a dialog box that I don't or the way they create a new style doesn't work because the part isn't round.  So... any chance someone can do a step by step guide on how to create a square/rectangular part that you can make into a tube/pipe style that can be used with the tube and pipe generator?  Most references I've found are just copying some other existing style and not publishing a new shape

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Authoring Ductwork as Custom Tube and Pipe Style

Hey guys, asking this because I've exhausted every friggin resource on the internet regarding how to make a custom tube and pipe style.  Either the resource gets a dialog box that I don't or the way they create a new style doesn't work because the part isn't round.  So... any chance someone can do a step by step guide on how to create a square/rectangular part that you can make into a tube/pipe style that can be used with the tube and pipe generator?  Most references I've found are just copying some other existing style and not publishing a new shape

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Gabriel_Watson
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@CGBenner see if you can share some insight on this, please. I am guessing you have done similar work and would have some fun describing it.

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@CGBenner see if you can share some insight on this, please. I am guessing you have done similar work and would have some fun describing it.

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CGBenner
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@Gabriel_Watson Appreciate the vote of confidence, but I have never done anything like duct work in T&P.  The only solved post I have found so far describes doing it with round duct which is not what @e_frissell is looking for.  If I can find a few minutes later, I will try to play with this a bit.


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@Gabriel_Watson Appreciate the vote of confidence, but I have never done anything like duct work in T&P.  The only solved post I have found so far describes doing it with round duct which is not what @e_frissell is looking for.  If I can find a few minutes later, I will try to play with this a bit.


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CGBenner
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@e_frissell 

Ok, I did some very quick testing, and I was able to create a rectangular part that I authored and published as pipe conduit.  I didn't attempt to create elbows or anything else, because if the conduit didn't work... well, there would no point in going any further.  So,... It can be done.  If you have a part file for your conduit, can you share it here for us to look at?


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@e_frissell 

Ok, I did some very quick testing, and I was able to create a rectangular part that I authored and published as pipe conduit.  I didn't attempt to create elbows or anything else, because if the conduit didn't work... well, there would no point in going any further.  So,... It can be done.  If you have a part file for your conduit, can you share it here for us to look at?


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Message 5 of 9
blandb
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Have you looked into Factory design suite or whatever it it called now? It had some ducting in it already.

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Have you looked into Factory design suite or whatever it it called now? It had some ducting in it already.

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e_frissell
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Interesting, I'm glad to hear it's working.  Here's the ipt of the duct work I was trying to get into the tube and pipe

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Interesting, I'm glad to hear it's working.  Here's the ipt of the duct work I was trying to get into the tube and pipe

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e_frissell
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Never even heard of factory design suite

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Never even heard of factory design suite

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blandb
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I guess it is called Factory Design Utilities now. You can use default cloud based assets or create your own, then it is just a snap together type system that you can either layout in Autocad or Inv. You can work with other 3rd party models as well. Just something to look into I guess.

 

 

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I guess it is called Factory Design Utilities now. You can use default cloud based assets or create your own, then it is just a snap together type system that you can either layout in Autocad or Inv. You can work with other 3rd party models as well. Just something to look into I guess.

 

 

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CGBenner
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@e_frissell 

Thank you for sharing.  What is missing are the parameters required for any Conduit part to be set for tube & pipe:
Nominal Size
Outside Diameter - This could be the width for a square
Inside Diameter - Outside dimension minus wall thickness is what I used.

Schedule - Metal gage could be used

Length - nominal length for starting out.

The parameters could be abbreviated, because when you Author the part you will map to these in the Authoring dialog.

Your part must also be set up as an Ipart, even if it only has a single row.  Authoring as a Pipe will not work unless it sees an ipart.

You should also add an axis running down the center of the duct, nd work points at the intersections of that axis and the flange face on either end.  These will be needed during authoring.

 

Once you have it authored and published, you will need to set the length column as a Custom Column so that it will adjust to your sketched routes.  This is just an example, play with the numbers until you get what you want.  I just found this on Google....

That should be a good start, but I'll admit it may still take a little wrestling to get it to work properly.  Then you can focus on your elbows, branches etc... those are the easy ones!

CGBenner_0-1699038886463.png

 


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@e_frissell 

Thank you for sharing.  What is missing are the parameters required for any Conduit part to be set for tube & pipe:
Nominal Size
Outside Diameter - This could be the width for a square
Inside Diameter - Outside dimension minus wall thickness is what I used.

Schedule - Metal gage could be used

Length - nominal length for starting out.

The parameters could be abbreviated, because when you Author the part you will map to these in the Authoring dialog.

Your part must also be set up as an Ipart, even if it only has a single row.  Authoring as a Pipe will not work unless it sees an ipart.

You should also add an axis running down the center of the duct, nd work points at the intersections of that axis and the flange face on either end.  These will be needed during authoring.

 

Once you have it authored and published, you will need to set the length column as a Custom Column so that it will adjust to your sketched routes.  This is just an example, play with the numbers until you get what you want.  I just found this on Google....

That should be a good start, but I'll admit it may still take a little wrestling to get it to work properly.  Then you can focus on your elbows, branches etc... those are the easy ones!

CGBenner_0-1699038886463.png

 


Chris Benner
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