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With all due respect, if you are going to chide Autodesk, you should
first read the fine print in the Microsoft license agreement.
Dare say, I doubt that Paul is a barrister or lawyer; he should stick
to what he knows how to do or he will find himself with a restraining
order at least.
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Personally, I think it's time to take one of the last bastions of the
techno-bubble, software vendors, to task over these issues and a few more
if normal market competition can't bring them about. I doubt that some of
the EULA clauses would stand up to legal challenge. Can an audit be
conducted without a court order if the user stands at the door and asks for
one? Is the audit clause antiquated and superflous when hardware license
validation methods are available? Do the worst offenders have a license or
subscription to put at risk? Maybe it's a good thing someone is standing
up and asking questions, flapping contracts in users faces.
I keep thinking I should take a look at Linux anyway... 8~)
While I agree that a lot of this
stuff is in here to protect our purchase in the software, I also wonder
why all this stuff is being targeted in EULA. Surley the vast majority
of the abusers do not have legal copies of the software anyway, so
putting something in the EULA when the whole system you are installing
is illegal anyway seems irrelevant.
What worries me is the fact that
Autodesk seem to be punishing its legal users more and more with
policys, pricing, subscription agreements etc when the "Bad" guys dont
have any of these anyway?
just my NZ $0.02
Brian
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"cbliss" <cbliss@cbliss.com>
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But the people that use the software illegally,
have to "agree" during install. If they are caught, then it is a lot
easier to throw the book at them since the ELUA is practically a
book.
You think the bad guys don't get caught? Look at the
Autodesk Annual Report and see if you can find the contribution from the
Anti-Piracy group.
Brian Corbin (INV9 SP3) wrote:
While I agree that a lot of this stuff is
in here to protect our purchase in the software, I also wonder why all this
stuff is being targeted in EULA. Surley the vast majority of the abusers do
not have legal copies of the software anyway, so putting something in the
EULA when the whole system you are installing is illegal anyway seems
irrelevant.
What worries me is the fact that Autodesk seem
to be punishing its legal users more and more with policys, pricing,
subscription agreements etc when the "Bad" guys dont have any of these
anyway?
just my NZ $0.02
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"Wm.J.Townsend" <The
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vendor has to comit to civil procedings or be able to provide enough
evidience to the local DA or Attorney General to get them to file
criminal charges before any kind of court order can be issued. Ain't no
vending machines...
Q: Hi, we're here to audit your company
acording to the EULA you never
read or signed.
A: Go away.
Slam!
EULA's are basically worth the electrons they're printed
on. -Bill
@cbliss wrote:
> Your example is a good
one. If a person stands in the door
, it is the
> clause in
the agreement that provides grounds for the software vendor to
> get
the court order.
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