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jjstr8
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Area of loop

jjstr8
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Is there any way to directly measure the area of a loop on a part?  Inventor (2019) just reports the total length.  I'd like to avoid doing a temporary extrusion just to get a face to measure area.  It's a planar closed loop, so I think should be easy for Inventor.  I feel like this was possible before the "one size fits all" measure tool.

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Area of loop

Is there any way to directly measure the area of a loop on a part?  Inventor (2019) just reports the total length.  I'd like to avoid doing a temporary extrusion just to get a face to measure area.  It's a planar closed loop, so I think should be easy for Inventor.  I feel like this was possible before the "one size fits all" measure tool.

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Message 2 of 14
SBix26
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And which version of Inventor are you using?  In Inventor 2023, while editing the sketch, right click in the  and choose Region Properties, then select the closed loop of interest.  You'll get area and much more.

 

Region Properties is also in the Inspect ribbon > Measure panel.


Sam B

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And which version of Inventor are you using?  In Inventor 2023, while editing the sketch, right click in the  and choose Region Properties, then select the closed loop of interest.  You'll get area and much more.

 

Region Properties is also in the Inspect ribbon > Measure panel.


Sam B

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Message 3 of 14
Lucas.dolinarVFXZU
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Lucas.dolinarVFXZU
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As mentioned: Region properties. (easiest)

 

Another option might be a Boundry patch (wich can be adaptive and doesnt need to be temporary)

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As mentioned: Region properties. (easiest)

 

Another option might be a Boundry patch (wich can be adaptive and doesnt need to be temporary)

Message 4 of 14
jjstr8
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jjstr8
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As I mentioned in my post, I'm on version 2019. In order to use the Region Properties, I would still have to temporarily create a sketch. I was wondering if there was a direct way to measure the area.
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As I mentioned in my post, I'm on version 2019. In order to use the Region Properties, I would still have to temporarily create a sketch. I was wondering if there was a direct way to measure the area.
Message 5 of 14
jjstr8
in reply to: Lucas.dolinarVFXZU

jjstr8
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Honestly, the Boundary Patch is the easiest and cleanest way. I'm not accepting either as solution since neither is a direct measurement, but thank you for the reply.
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Honestly, the Boundary Patch is the easiest and cleanest way. I'm not accepting either as solution since neither is a direct measurement, but thank you for the reply.
Message 6 of 14
JDMather
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@jjstr8 wrote:
I would still have to temporarily create a sketch.

I don't understand this statement.

Can you Attach a *.ipt that illustrates the issue?


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@jjstr8 wrote:
I would still have to temporarily create a sketch.

I don't understand this statement.

Can you Attach a *.ipt that illustrates the issue?


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Message 7 of 14
jjstr8
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Say you have a plate with a rectangular cutout that you then fillet the corners. You'd have to project the result in a sketch to use the Region Properties.
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Say you have a plate with a rectangular cutout that you then fillet the corners. You'd have to project the result in a sketch to use the Region Properties.
Message 8 of 14
JDMather
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@jjstr8 wrote:
Say you have a ...

No file Attached?

 

 

JDMather_0-1656107837345.png

 


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@jjstr8 wrote:
Say you have a ...

No file Attached?

 

 

JDMather_0-1656107837345.png

 


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Message 9 of 14
JDMather
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@jjstr8 wrote:

Is there any way to directly measure the area of a loop on a part?  ...just to get a face to measure area. 


Maybe I misunderstood the question.

Is it about area of Loop or area of Face?

 

A *.ipt file might have helped illustrate the issue.


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@jjstr8 wrote:

Is there any way to directly measure the area of a loop on a part?  ...just to get a face to measure area. 


Maybe I misunderstood the question.

Is it about area of Loop or area of Face?

 

A *.ipt file might have helped illustrate the issue.


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Message 10 of 14
johnsonshiue
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johnsonshiue
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Hi! On 2023, the Measure command can measure distance, angle, body face area, and loop length. Right-click on the measure target -> Select Other -> select the exact geometry. Please share the example part here to facilitate the discussion.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
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Hi! On 2023, the Measure command can measure distance, angle, body face area, and loop length. Right-click on the measure target -> Select Other -> select the exact geometry. Please share the example part here to facilitate the discussion.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 11 of 14
jjstr8
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jjstr8
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I thought my example description was straightforward, but here's a part file.  I created a boundary patch as @Lucas.dolinarVFXZU suggested to show the loop that I want to measure the area.

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I thought my example description was straightforward, but here's a part file.  I created a boundary patch as @Lucas.dolinarVFXZU suggested to show the loop that I want to measure the area.

Message 12 of 14
johnsonshiue
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johnsonshiue
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Hi! Many thanks for sharing the file! As JD indicated earlier, you can measure the area of the surface. Is this what you were looking for?

 

Area.png

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
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Hi! Many thanks for sharing the file! As JD indicated earlier, you can measure the area of the surface. Is this what you were looking for?

 

Area.png

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 13 of 14
pcrawley
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pcrawley
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Accepted solution

I could be wrong, but is question: How to measure the area of a void?

 

In the sample model there is a boundary patch, and that is easy to measure - as is a temporary extrusion and all the other suggestions. If the area to measure is open space, there is no way to measure its open area.

 

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You can measure the loop easily enough - but you don't get the area unless there is something there to measure.

 

@jjstr8 - Would you accept "No - you can't measure a void" as an answer? 😋

Peter

I could be wrong, but is question: How to measure the area of a void?

 

In the sample model there is a boundary patch, and that is easy to measure - as is a temporary extrusion and all the other suggestions. If the area to measure is open space, there is no way to measure its open area.

 

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You can measure the loop easily enough - but you don't get the area unless there is something there to measure.

 

@jjstr8 - Would you accept "No - you can't measure a void" as an answer? 😋

Peter
Message 14 of 14
jjstr8
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jjstr8
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Thank you for the reply. "No" is certainly an acceptable answer. And thank you for understanding that the Boundary Patch is there just to highlight the loop area I'm interested in measuring.
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Thank you for the reply. "No" is certainly an acceptable answer. And thank you for understanding that the Boundary Patch is there just to highlight the loop area I'm interested in measuring.

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