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Anonymous
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angular ordinate dimensions

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There is a lot of topics on ordinate dims when I did a search, but I could not find this issue being discussed.
We are using IV 10. I am required to make the new drawing look just like the old dwg drawing (see pic).

Can this be done?
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angular ordinate dimensions

There is a lot of topics on ordinate dims when I did a search, but I could not find this issue being discussed.
We are using IV 10. I am required to make the new drawing look just like the old dwg drawing (see pic).

Can this be done?
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JDMather
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JDMather
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Technically I don't think those qualify as Ordinate Dimensions.
I'm sure you could label those much the same as was done in AutoCAD. Can you post an example ipt and I will experiment creating an idw.

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Technically I don't think those qualify as Ordinate Dimensions.
I'm sure you could label those much the same as was done in AutoCAD. Can you post an example ipt and I will experiment creating an idw.

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Anonymous
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I agree, those are not ordinate dims, and no you can't use ordinate in that method. You could use angular dimensions to do it, but you might have to play around with the dimstyle to get it to look exactly like that. Let me test something like that.

If you are using 2008, you can save the file as an Inventor DWG and open and dimension in AutoCAD.

What version are you using? I have 11 and 2008.
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I agree, those are not ordinate dims, and no you can't use ordinate in that method. You could use angular dimensions to do it, but you might have to play around with the dimstyle to get it to look exactly like that. Let me test something like that.

If you are using 2008, you can save the file as an Inventor DWG and open and dimension in AutoCAD.

What version are you using? I have 11 and 2008.
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Anonymous
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Here is the ipt that we are working with:
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Here is the ipt that we are working with:
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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We're using IV 10.
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We're using IV 10.
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Anonymous
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The reason a dim can't be done like this in IV is that the layer that
controls the dim treats both the dim lines and the text style all as one
entity. A layer cannot be turned off to suppress the dim lines. There is no
way to put the text itself on a unique layer.

You could use a Leader Text without the leader (and pull in the model
parameters so they are parametric) but you won't be able to make it a
"basic" dim like a normal dim can be modified.

Isn't that sweet! IV needs more freaking layers and subset styles.

QBZ


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Here is the ipt that we are working with:
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The reason a dim can't be done like this in IV is that the layer that
controls the dim treats both the dim lines and the text style all as one
entity. A layer cannot be turned off to suppress the dim lines. There is no
way to put the text itself on a unique layer.

You could use a Leader Text without the leader (and pull in the model
parameters so they are parametric) but you won't be able to make it a
"basic" dim like a normal dim can be modified.

Isn't that sweet! IV needs more freaking layers and subset styles.

QBZ


wrote in message news:5625301@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here is the ipt that we are working with:
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JDMather
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JDMather
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I experimented just a bit but couldn't figure out how to turn off both the extension lines and the leaders on a Basic angle dimension. There might be a way I don't know about.
You could easily create a Sketched Symbol for reuse in labeling the angles. By using a Sketched Symbol you can have the Basic rectangle around the text. I am using r2008 otherwise I would post an example.

On a side note it appears on quick inspection that those NPTs are at regular interval angles. I think I would have done one then circular pattern and suppress the unwanted instances rather than create a bunch of workplanes.

BTW - if you had pulled up the EOP marker before zipping to post the file would have been much much smaller file (I'm on a very slow DUN connection).

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I experimented just a bit but couldn't figure out how to turn off both the extension lines and the leaders on a Basic angle dimension. There might be a way I don't know about.
You could easily create a Sketched Symbol for reuse in labeling the angles. By using a Sketched Symbol you can have the Basic rectangle around the text. I am using r2008 otherwise I would post an example.

On a side note it appears on quick inspection that those NPTs are at regular interval angles. I think I would have done one then circular pattern and suppress the unwanted instances rather than create a bunch of workplanes.

BTW - if you had pulled up the EOP marker before zipping to post the file would have been much much smaller file (I'm on a very slow DUN connection).

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Autodesk AutoCAD 2013 Certified Professional
Certified SolidWorks Professional


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Anonymous
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Don't get me started on the model structure. One of our young draftsmen completed this model and we did not check it thoroughly before releasing it into our system. Oh well.

So by moving the EOP marker, the file size is smaller?
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Don't get me started on the model structure. One of our young draftsmen completed this model and we did not check it thoroughly before releasing it into our system. Oh well.

So by moving the EOP marker, the file size is smaller?
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Anonymous
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I'll answer my own question. By moving the EOP it dropped the zip file size to 400kb. Well, now I know!
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I'll answer my own question. By moving the EOP it dropped the zip file size to 400kb. Well, now I know!
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Anonymous
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Here is what I'm going to do:

Use the Ordinate Dim command, select on a centerline and drag it out to set it as the zero mark. Click done and repeat. (see dim1.jpg)

This part is odd, but it is the only way I can get the degree symbol to work properly.

Right click on a dim and selected "New Dim Style" and select the Tolerance tab
Set your tolerance to BASIC.
Set your Precision to 2 places
Set you "display option" to suffix/prefix inside
Click done.

Now double click and click on "override value" and type in the corresponding value.

Now right click and add text. Type in a 0 and then hold down the ALT key and type 0176. This should give you a degree symbol. °
(The IV deg symbol is too small and does not look right) And you have to put in the 0 or otherwise IV centers the degree text and it doesn't look right.

I know our ME's do not like us to use text in the values, but I don't have much choice here.
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Here is what I'm going to do:

Use the Ordinate Dim command, select on a centerline and drag it out to set it as the zero mark. Click done and repeat. (see dim1.jpg)

This part is odd, but it is the only way I can get the degree symbol to work properly.

Right click on a dim and selected "New Dim Style" and select the Tolerance tab
Set your tolerance to BASIC.
Set your Precision to 2 places
Set you "display option" to suffix/prefix inside
Click done.

Now double click and click on "override value" and type in the corresponding value.

Now right click and add text. Type in a 0 and then hold down the ALT key and type 0176. This should give you a degree symbol. °
(The IV deg symbol is too small and does not look right) And you have to put in the 0 or otherwise IV centers the degree text and it doesn't look right.

I know our ME's do not like us to use text in the values, but I don't have much choice here.
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Anonymous
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Here is a pic of the outcome
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Here is a pic of the outcome

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