3D Annotations from Inventor DWF Assembly, Not Visible with Autodesk Web Viewer

petestrycharske
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3D Annotations from Inventor DWF Assembly, Not Visible with Autodesk Web Viewer

petestrycharske
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‎03-03-2023 02:56 PM

All,

 

Good afternoon!  I've run into a bit of a snag with a customer project and I'm not sure what the issue is.  Instead of typing out a long, drawn out explanation, I've included a video below, to explain my situation.  Basically we want the 3D annotations to display with the online viewer and be controlled similarly to Design Review.  Please let me know if you have any questions or any solutions.  Thanks for the help and have a most blessed day!

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    steveh3
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    ‎03-06-2023 04:16 AM

    Pete...I think we ran into same issue. I have a note that it was fixed in 2023 ADMS. You also have to toggle on a couple of settings in the viewer. They are off by default....

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    Now...keep in mind...I pretty sure if you clear your cache in your browser, it will go back to default.

    May have to change your background too.  Symbols text look a little more greyish than I remember.

    Here's what we are seeing.....

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    Here's a running list of wishes on Idea station...please vote up!!!

    https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/vault-ideas/autodesk-viewer-requests-from-production-floor/idc-p/1179...

     

    HTH,

    SteveH.

     

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    petestrycharske
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    ‎03-06-2023 04:45 AM

    @steveh3, thanks for the tip!  I see that you are using 3D weld symbols, can you verify if 3D dimensions display?  I could not view those on my side, even with the settings adjustments that you suggested, along with changing the background.  

    Also, they're not using Vault currently, just exporting the models as DWFx files directly from Inventor.  Would that make any difference?  Appreciate the help and have a most blessed day!

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    steveh3
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    ‎03-06-2023 05:31 AM

    Pete..

    As for dimensions...Yes...

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    So...you are emailing the dwfx and just opening in a browser? I haven't played with that in awhile. From my memory, I struggled with that emailing concept. It's like printing....as soon as you print it, it's a copy and potentially old. 

     

    As for you comment about 3D welds....we are toying around with 3D welds and dimensions as a proof of concept. Not active in production!!!! Doing that would be a culture change for all. It' like us moving from 2D to 3D CAD. Making that same switch in production where go from reading a 2D print to putting all data in 3D is a major shift.

     

    Does it make sense to not have a 2D print, YES!

    Is it do-able? It's close...

    Will production allow us to make the switch.....Eventually it will happen.

     

    Best,

    Steve H.

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    petestrycharske
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    ‎03-06-2023 09:15 AM

    @steveh3, you are correct about the copy, but we cannot supply the model, in order to ensure some iLogic stuff doesn't get spread around.  We are planning on sending the DWFx file to customer with each submission / revision, so they will remain in sync (enough anyway).  

     

    Did you generate that DWFx from Vault?  I can't seem to see anything from the DWFx I generated in Inventor 2022...  Also below is a short video with my settings for the online viewer.  Please let me know if I've missed anything, from your perspective. 

     

    Appreciate the advice and have a most blessed day!

    Peace,
    Pete

     

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      steveh3
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      ‎03-06-2023 09:51 AM

      Pete...

      Yes...it appears you have the settings correct.

      The settings are all on the Configuration tab. I know the controls are less than desirable and NOT intuitive at all. In some cases, I feel there should be a setting to turn off all notation.

       

      Anyway... I just created a dwfx from the model of the image I sent earlier.

      I view that dwfx in Design Review it's there.

      If you open your file in Design Review does it show?

      If it does....guessing it's a limitation with online viewer.

       

      FYI...my screen shots were from Vault and a dwf (not dwfx) and is generated on check in from the inventor workstation using Inventor 2023.2.1. I did NOT use online viewer.

       

      Curious to what you find out,

       

      Steve H.

       

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      steveh3
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      ‎03-06-2023 09:54 AM

      As mentioned earlier...not all annotations were showing with 2023 ADMS until they fixed it in 2023.1 or 2023.2. So, I'm leaning towards that it's a limitation with the browser extension or something like that. 

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      CGBenner
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      ‎03-08-2023 10:51 AM

      @johnsonshiue @ihayesjr 

      Do you guys know if the Viewer supports Inventor's 3D annotations?

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      ihayesjr
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      ‎03-08-2023 11:04 AM

      @CGBenner 

      You are correct. The Online Viewer has a translation issue with 3D annotations in a DWF file. 




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      petestrycharske
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      ‎03-08-2023 12:07 PM

      @ihayesjr, thanks for confirming!  Are there any plans to address this?  The reason I ask is that we're finding that the DWF is a nice file transfer file for files that can be used on the manufacturing or the AEC side.  Unfortunately, one of the holdups is that the 3D annotations were not visible with the online viewer.  Thanks for your consideration, hope all is well and have a most blessed day!

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      johnsonshiue
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      ‎03-08-2023 03:44 PM

      Hi Pete and Steve,

       

      I assume this issue applies to 3D Annotation in a DWF file. Before a fix becomes available, actually you may consider exporting to a JT file. It is also very compact and viewable. I did a quick test it seemed to work well in the Autodesk Viewer (and JT2GO by Siemens).

      Many thanks!

       



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      petestrycharske
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      ‎03-09-2023 02:47 PM

      Thanks @johnsonshiue for that idea!  It does bring along the 3D annotations, so that worked great, but unfortunately, it did not bring along any of the BOM data.  For example, I can export the DWF with either or both of the BOM formats and those properties are displayed in Design Review and the web viewer.

       

      I used the "Monolithic" export option for the JT file.  Is there a setting that will bring along the BOM data?  I'll try to do some more exploring and you got me wondering what other formats could be useful.  Thanks for getting me out of my DWF rut... 🤣

      Thanks for the help and have a most blessed day!

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      johnsonshiue
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      ‎03-10-2023 02:01 PM

      Hi Pete,

       

      Unfortunately no. I don't think the Inventor BOM is exported to JT. I guess you may still need to use DWF for the BOM and JT for the PMI. I am sorry.

      Many thanks!



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      We use Bing to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Bing. Ads are based on both Bing data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Bing has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Bing to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Bing Privacy Policy
      G2Crowd
      We use G2Crowd to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by G2Crowd. Ads are based on both G2Crowd data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that G2Crowd has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to G2Crowd to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. G2Crowd Privacy Policy
      NMPI Display
      We use NMPI Display to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by NMPI Display. Ads are based on both NMPI Display data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that NMPI Display has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to NMPI Display to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. NMPI Display Privacy Policy
      VK
      We use VK to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by VK. Ads are based on both VK data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that VK has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to VK to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. VK Privacy Policy
      Adobe Target
      We use Adobe Target to test new features on our sites and customize your experience of these features. To do this, we collect behavioral data while you’re on our sites. This data may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, your IP address or device ID, your Autodesk ID, and others. You may experience a different version of our sites based on feature testing, or view personalized content based on your visitor attributes. Adobe Target Privacy Policy
      Google Analytics (Advertising)
      We use Google Analytics (Advertising) to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Google Analytics (Advertising). Ads are based on both Google Analytics (Advertising) data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Google Analytics (Advertising) has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Google Analytics (Advertising) to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Google Analytics (Advertising) Privacy Policy
      Trendkite
      We use Trendkite to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Trendkite. Ads are based on both Trendkite data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Trendkite has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Trendkite to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Trendkite Privacy Policy
      Hotjar
      We use Hotjar to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Hotjar. Ads are based on both Hotjar data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Hotjar has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Hotjar to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Hotjar Privacy Policy
      6 Sense
      We use 6 Sense to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by 6 Sense. Ads are based on both 6 Sense data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that 6 Sense has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to 6 Sense to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. 6 Sense Privacy Policy
      Terminus
      We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
      StackAdapt
      We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
      The Trade Desk
      We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
      RollWorks
      We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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