drill cycle - tool orientation != Setup wcs orientation

makko74 · ‎10-15-2015

Hi,

I've a little problem, its not an error but bugging me.
When I use drill cycles with an other tool orientation as the Setup then the Post gives me many lines of code that I dont need (for each drill position an MCALL CYCLE). Is the tool orientation same as the Setup then the Post does this not. (Basic is the generic Siemens 840D)

Pic1 shows the initial situation (tool orientaion is not the Setup wc orientation).
Pic2 shows what the Post is outputting (this is what I not will, many lines of code)
Pic3 shows what I will and what the Post normally gives out when the tool orientation is the same as the Setup orientation.

Now my question:
Is there an tolerance parameter or similar, what I can adjust to achieve what I want?

Thanks in advance,
Mario

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AchimN · ‎10-15-2015

The generic post does this by default usually:
N18 ; Drill1
N19 M9
N20 T4 D4
N21 M6
N22 S5000 M3
N23 G54
N24 CYCLE800(1,"",0,27,0,0,0,0,-65,0,0,0,0,-1)
N25 G0 X-13.065 Y11.23
N26 G0 Z37.658
N27 M8
N28 G17
N29 F1000
N30 MCALL CYCLE81(27.658, 20.122, 5, 10.122, )
N31 X-13.065 Y11.23
N32 Y1.234
N33 X-11.841 Y-14.724
N34 MCALL
N35 G0 Z37.658

So anything seems to be different in your post?! 😮

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Principal Technology Consultant

makko74 · ‎10-15-2015

That's why i wrote "Basic is the generic Siemens 840D", with little bit of changes from my side.

The generic Post gives out the old Cycles, I want the newer Cycles with the newer Edit-screen on Machine, that's why the extra lines, so I can re-translate the cycles on Machine with the newer Edit-screen so i need the extra lines before and after cycle calls.
(PIC1 old Edit-Screen, PIC2 newer Edit-Screen)

CYCLE800 was not comfortable enough in my opinion (too long), that's why, years ago, I had written a subprogram (ROT_B), what does the zero point calculations at table turns (B) in the Machine and my own function in the Post to calculate new wcs point on workplane/workorigin changes.

POCKET4 is the circle pocket cycle, normally it's not possible to call with MCALL, I've pimped my POCKET4, when the parameters for applicate and ordinate are empty then its possible to call POCKET4 with MCALL otherwise the normal, the Siemens, way.

So but now to my problem, the post shows not every time this behavior, it's depending on part. Sometimes all is normal how I want, sometimes not.

the generic Siemens 840D post

N18 ; D9 auf 15' Bohren
N19 M9
N20 T4 D4
N21 M6
N22 ; Spibo 9 VHM
N23 S3006 M3
N24 G54
N25 CYCLE800(1,"",0,27,0,0,0,0,15,0,0,0,0,-1)
N26 G0 X51.649 Y14.25
N27 G0 Z29.671
N28 M7
N29 G17
N30 F481
N31 MCALL CYCLE81(19.671, -10.837, 10, -36.548, )
N32 X51.649 Y14.25
N33 MCALL
N36 MCALL CYCLE81(19.671, -10.837, 10, -36.548, )
N37 X51.649 Y71
N38 MCALL
N41 MCALL CYCLE81(19.671, -10.837, 10, -36.548, )
N42 X51.649 Y122
N43 MCALL
N46 MCALL CYCLE81(19.671, -10.837, 10, -36.548, )
N47 X51.649 Y224
N48 MCALL
N51 MCALL CYCLE81(19.671, -10.837, 10, -36.548, )
N52 X51.649 Y428
N53 MCALL
N56 MCALL CYCLE81(19.671, -10.837, 10, -36.548, )
N57 X51.649 Y632
N58 MCALL
N61 MCALL CYCLE81(19.671, -10.837, 10, -36.548, )
N62 X51.649 Y836
N63 MCALL
N66 MCALL CYCLE81(19.671, -10.837, 10, -36.548, )
N67 X51.649 Y1044.5
N68 MCALL
N69 G0 Z29.671

my post


;Operation: D9 auf 15' Bohren
;---------------------------
N32 S3006 M3
N33 G0 G54
N34 G0 B=DC(BGRAD[0])
N35 ROT_B(15, 1, 0, 0, 0)
N36 M01 ;*** Neuer Nullpunkt! ***
N37 G0 X51.649 Y14.25
N38 G0 Z29.671
N39 M7
N40 G4 F2
N41 F481
;NCG#CYC82#\CST.DIR\bohren.com#NC2#2#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
;#6#7#2#7#1###"M3"####3##1#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N42 MCALL CYCLE82(19.671,-10.837,10,-36.548,,0)
;#END#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N43 X51.649 Y14.25
N44 MCALL
;NCG#CYC82#\CST.DIR\bohren.com#NC2#2#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
;#6#7#2#7#1###"M3"####3##1#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N46 MCALL CYCLE82(19.671,-10.837,10,-36.548,,0)
;#END#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N47 X51.649 Y71
N48 MCALL
;NCG#CYC82#\CST.DIR\bohren.com#NC2#2#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
;#6#7#2#7#1###"M3"####3##1#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N50 MCALL CYCLE82(19.671,-10.837,10,-36.548,,0)
;#END#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N51 X51.649 Y122
N52 MCALL
;NCG#CYC82#\CST.DIR\bohren.com#NC2#2#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
;#6#7#2#7#1###"M3"####3##1#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N54 MCALL CYCLE82(19.671,-10.837,10,-36.548,,0)
;#END#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N55 X51.649 Y224
N56 MCALL
;NCG#CYC82#\CST.DIR\bohren.com#NC2#2#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
;#6#7#2#7#1###"M3"####3##1#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N58 MCALL CYCLE82(19.671,-10.837,10,-36.548,,0)
;#END#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N59 X51.649 Y428
N60 MCALL
;NCG#CYC82#\CST.DIR\bohren.com#NC2#2#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
;#6#7#2#7#1###"M3"####3##1#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N62 MCALL CYCLE82(19.671,-10.837,10,-36.548,,0)
;#END#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N63 X51.649 Y632
N64 MCALL
;NCG#CYC82#\CST.DIR\bohren.com#NC2#2#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
;#6#7#2#7#1###"M3"####3##1#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N66 MCALL CYCLE82(19.671,-10.837,10,-36.548,,0)
;#END#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N67 X51.649 Y836
N68 MCALL
;NCG#CYC82#\CST.DIR\bohren.com#NC2#2#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
;#6#7#2#7#1###"M3"####3##1#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N70 MCALL CYCLE82(19.671,-10.837,10,-36.548,,0)
;#END#*NCG;*RO*;*HD*
N71 X51.649 Y1044.5
N72 MCALL
N73 G0 Z29.671

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AchimN · ‎10-15-2015

Ok so I´d need part + post.

Achim.N
Principal Technology Consultant

makko74 · ‎10-15-2015

then i need mail-adress,
part how ever to big for forum.

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AchimN · ‎10-15-2015

No problem 😉
cam.posts@autodesk.com

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Principal Technology Consultant

makko74 · ‎10-15-2015

Mail is out, thanks for have a look.

What I mean is a MCALL CYCLE82 for each drilling position, although all values are the same, except for the positions.

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