Permanently disable the "What do you want to design?" popup?

[jon46XEC]

I am looking for the option to permanently disable the "What do you want to design?" popup that appears when I start a new design in Fusion. With much respect dev's, I realize it was just released with the latest update today, but for daily experienced professional users -  it's really annoying. I just want to open a default design canvas, rather than presenting me with design choices every time.

[design.mercengB76F6]

I used to be able to just click the + button in the tab section and be designing a new project within seconds. Now I need to read up on the difference between all those useless and annoying options. Before it used to "just magically" work, now you have to negotiate useless friction... I might have been accomodating and my previous posts will support it, but now I'm just annoyed to a point where my argument might become irrational... 

[NA_Currently]

I also find this annoying and patronizing-- maybe a beginner needs this the first few times, or a person who very rarely uses the software needs a reminder on how to start.  From my perspective, it would be better if the devs were spending their efforts on things from the electronics or manufacturing backlogs.  For instance:  The manufacturing workflow for CNC parts remains desperately in need of rework. Please add a checkbox to make this popup opt-outable in the next update.

[nicholas_j_kline]

Like, I don't pay for this software and never will, and problems like this are exactly why.

I have never in my life seen software that does some things so well, and other things so poorly.

The Fusion Team's Motto: "Decent at CAD, absolutely terrible at UI. Exactly how we like it!"

[jtax1995]

I share the same opinion like many other people in this topic. This feature is annoying, I hate pop-ups which shows up during startup, yes I can use any of the quick keys, or just click outside that box. Please add an feature to disable this.

[Scalar1968]

In my opinion, the entire latest update is a complete disaster. Since the update, hardly anything works as it did before. I don't want to mess around with component designs or hybrid designs. I make wooden jewelry and have lots of jewelry pieces that I just want to sketch and mill out. I don't want to build spaceships or anything like that. And to be honest, I just use all the project folders as a directory structure. I switched to Fusion because it was intuitive, but now it's just complicated. I can't put this there and that there. Suddenly there are restrictions that make my life more complicated, not easier. Besides, Fusion has just become slow. I have an I13700 processor, an Nvidia RTX 4070 Super, and 64 GB of DDR5 RAM, but a simple toolpath calculation that used to take 30 seconds now takes me almost 45 minutes. Also, contours are not always recognized correctly as inside and outside as they used to be. I have to say, I'm glad my 3-year subscription is expiring this year....

[fr4gged]

@Richard.stubley

"...the vision is for this prompt to become more than the six tiles you currently see."

Sounds like analysis paralysis to me. Why would you want to greet a new user with 6+ options and no explanation to the incentives of choosing one tile / design mode over the others? If a user is truly new to Fusion, they don't know what they don't know. Odds are, they downloaded Fusion because they already know that it sports features they are looking for and may already know how to access those features.

"From that perspective, a permanent dismissal would likely be a short-term fix that creates more confusion than it solves."
Another easy fix. Re-enable the popup after every update to ensure no one misses a new feature or mode that we simply can't live without.

"If we later determine that offering a preference to suppress it improves the overall experience, we absolutely can, technically it’s trivial."

Okay. So instead of making your entire user base happy, you are deciding to upset a rather large fraction of it over a trivial change. A great many of your users already know exactly how they want to use Fusion. Give us the ability to make it so, without interruption.

"Creating an experience that works well across that entire spectrum is no small feat."
I can, and do appreciate this. Except in this case with your latest change you did say it was trivial.

"TLDR
If you would like to create a new document without seeing the prompt, the keyboard shortcut CTRL+N or CMD+N does this.
Just remember to set your preferred default document type, as this is what will be created."
Look, I get that I can use this shortcut to bypass the window. Call me picky, but I want to use the "+" tab to open new projects, not a key combo. This also does not save me from having to click through it when I start Fusion.

"Without this prompt, there is no consistent access point for those new experiences."
Please find a less obtrusive option for providing a common access point to an experience a user does not typically use. Even for someone working in a team or creating an assembly, it's hard for me to see how this couldn't annoy them as well. Again, most people know how they want to use Fusion. Make this a button in the toolbar somewhere, or like suggested by @mrm1018 make this reachable by going to file > new. This should be an access point for less used design modes, not a popup asking "Are you really really sure you wanna do what you usually do 99% of the time?".

"There is a preference called Show Home Tab at Startup which focuses the experience on opening existing designs rather than creating new ones. For users who primarily open projects when launching Fusion, this is the recommended setup."
The home screen is far too slow to serve as a solution to any of this. Like others, I also chose to disable the homescreen, not just because I found it slow, but because without it I still used to be greeted by everything I wanted at startup. Existing projects? At the left of the screen. Scratch workspace? Right in front of me.


In summary:
I think we understand your desire to make sure you cater to all your users equally, regardless of their desired workflow or mode of usage. Or we'd like to, except that you are telling a huge portion of your userbase that giving us what we want is trivial, but you just won't do it. You want to help users find a way to work that is most effective to them. Well, a lot of us know how we want to work with Fusion, so stop asking us and just let us use it.
Thanks for hearing us out, but please do more than just hear us out if there is literally a win/win situation at hand that is trivial to implement.

[Richard.stubley]

Just to highlight something I said that I feel has been lost. 
Technically it's trivial to add a preference to disable the prompt and just create your default doc, this is what the shortcut keys do, so we know we can do it.
The experience is not so trivial. This startup prompt is the planned access points for projects currently in motion.

I don't think letting users turn it off only to turn it back on at each update would be the right move, changing defaults on users is not something we take lightly. 

Feedback from this thread, other threads, DM's, Customer visits and more is as always collected and feeds into our plans. 

[fr4gged]

"Technically it's trivial to add a preference to disable the prompt and just create your default doc, this is what the shortcut keys do, so we know we can do it."

Okay great. So you can have your popup, and we can have our option to not deal with it, and everyone could be happy.

[nicholas_j_kline]

"changing defaults on users is not something we take lightly"

Says the company that does literally everything they can to go against the general consensus of most users. 

You have one of the worst UIs I have ever seen in a major production application. You force our hand worse than Apple, and that's saying a lot. 

Autodesk has spammed the Internet to become the "leader" in CAD / CAM, but then sits on their laurels when the masses expect standardization and common sense interfaces.

[nicholas_j_kline]

Adding to the above, I had to sit and spend HOURS figuring out how to bind custom shortcut keys through from the ground up python for things that freaking FreeCAD has had for years. Oh, you want shortcuts for Home, Front, Top, etc? LOL, "we care about our users" but will do nothing to make their workflow more efficient.

You want ALT + F, ALT + N, ALT + S menu shortcuts, like literally every major and professional Windows application ever written. Sike. That's not us, silly. You will use the mouse to click Don't Save and you will like it. You will use the mouse for everything, despite the well-known fact that power users prefer the keyboard. 

If you INSIST on using the keyboard, you will learn how to program it yourself, despite the fact that we demand business-grade rental fees for our software. 

Oh, you want to keep using the software that you pay for, that you have grown accustomed to and know it works exactly how you want it? Nah, forced upgrades. Deal with it.

[mpellakuru]

I have been using fusion for almost 6 years now, I learned it when i was in the first year of my college, and now at my workplace I insisted the management to get fusion licenses to make the job easier and more intuitive. It wasn't so hard to learn and get into fusion back then 6 years ago, so i doubt that the new users will not understand how to work with fusion in a week. Instead you chose to go against the popular user consensus just so you can say you are making it "new user friendly" really makes little sense. 
The very reason I asked my company to shift to fusion for R&D was that its user friendly and intuitive. That very thing is being changed by your updates, so maybe have an actual discussion about the way you want to take this product ahead because right now, it doesn't look like its in the user's interest.
I enjoyed using fusion just for small ideations, instead of making hand sketches of my work id make CADs on fusion because it was easy and didn't block my idea flow. but adding all these redundant forceful popup windows really break the flow and defeats the whole point of saying Fusion Supports ideation. 

we are addressing the "user friendly" part here and i guess you guys will have to redefine that, as a simple option to make fusion's UI as the user wants is not going to crash your company's business.

"I don't think letting users turn it off only to turn it back on at each update would be the right move,"
the "Right move" in my opinion should be to keep the "user friendly" part at the core of your philosophy instead.

And I say all this humbly, just so that fusion is better for all of us to use. I don't mean to undermine your decisions, but if user friendly is what you stand by, maybe make sure that considers all the users.

[design.mercengB76F6]

My argument is still valid that if the pop-up might be feature rich in the future, then only release it when and if it actually becomes relevant. At this moment it generates way too much friction for anyone on earth to justify it...

[garethTDEV6]

Good Grief!

Once again developers know better than users, I am sure they consider "what about large companies that have large work forces, how will we deal with them? etc"

The answer is that they will likely not use fusion - whatever your development roadmap.

So listen to your users.

Why not add an option 'do not show again' and on every update force that back on so that users may need to click it once on every update?

Saying that you do not want to mess with user settings is rediculous.

Why?

Well... for example - this latest update cost us thousands because it crashed a machine.

CAM operations that I have used for years suddenly did different things and caused a sizable crash.

So, in your software world, - changing a user setting is a big deal, but changing the way a CAM op works (and without a warning) is just fine.

As I started this post - Good Grief!

As an aside, waiting literally 25 minutes for a single op to regenerate is disgusting. Why not use multi threading for generations?

Why, while I am waiting 25 minutes for the regen are my PC processors virtually idling?

Perhaps put some effort into what people actually use the software for, rather trying to satisfy potential fictitious future markets? 

[neverwinter77SUS]

Dear devs.

I will ignore your patronizing tone and all, alright.

What I believe you can still do for us is to make a single tiny checkbox hidden well inside the preferences menu that can only be found by people who are GODDAMN FED UP WITH THIS and are ready to dive deep into the rabbit hole just once instead of getting annoyed every. single. time.

Regards

[HughesTooling]

@Richard.stubley OK so you don't want us to permanently disable this feature but how about a don't ask again tick box on the dialog so you don't see the dialog again for that session?

Also I've always avoided distributed designs because there's no way to copy a project. Simple example I have 10 part designs each with a 2d drawings and add them to an assembly also with a drawing. As far as I know there's no way to make a fully independent copy with all new parts, assembly and all linked 2d drawings? Perhaps it would be better to get this working before pushing the Part-Assembly workflow with this new disliked dialog.

[mrm1018]

@Richard.stubley the mental gymnastics to make a change to something you described as "trivial", then state "I don't think letting users turn it off only to turn it back on at each update would be the right move, changing defaults on users is not something we take lightly" must be exhausting.

You know just as well as I do you can make the settings to not show this dialog again can persist through updates.

I work in product development, and know the tendency to defend your creation.  Pride of ownership is a real thing.  However, it often quickly turns into embarrassment and foolishness - I suspect you and your team are feeling it.

Any more double downs on this choice are just going to make it worse.  You won't convince anyone...

It was just a bad idea, fix it and move on.  Lesson learned.

[brad9G23U]

Seriously Fusion 360, I don't know who keeps coming up with these "great" ideas, but every time fusion updates, which is far too often, I have to go in and try and undo all these useless things they keep adding.  I don't want my screen to automatically move to my part, I don't want pop ups that I can't get rid of, including the notification to update fusion because it may as well pop up every time I open the program at this point, and "dismissing it immediately" is a cop out excuse for something that shouldn't be there in the first place, I don't want my entire selection of sketches and bodies to change whenever I switch from drawing to manufacturing, the list goes on but please stop trying to do things for us and just let us work, it honestly is making it much more annoying to use every single time.

[TheCADWhisperer]

Come on designers - get used to it.

I like it!

[Scalar1968]

And what do u like about this "Feature"?

[jlarsonLP454]

This line fills me with fear and dread of what is to come: "This startup prompt is the planned access points for projects currently in motion."

Not only have you added an annoying startup prompt, you're working on even more new and shiny stuff to add to the annoying prompt. We don't want new and shiny, we want bug fixes and minor feature improvements that address the issues people have been complaining about on these forums for years now with no resolution. Maybe I'll have to eat my words when I see what you're actually cooking up, but for now I'm highly skeptical. 

Please bring back the classic UI theme while you're at it - the new one hurts my eyes. 

I did see you improved the tangency constraint on the new release so it works across multiple surfaces - I haven't tried it yet, but that is a great improvement of the type that are of high value to me  - thank you to your team for that.