measure tool sucks

[ckVCFWD]

I have encountered tons of scenarios where the measure tool is just useless, but i ll focus on one here. there maybe a way to read this measurement some where but i cant see it. solid works measure tool never lets me down. why cant fusion make it work the same (or better)? I want to check if this part fits quickly by just comparing measurements in the program and real life. how do  I get the distance from the edge or centre of the hole to the face?  I drew on the image how solid works usually does it. I would love to be called an idiot here and have the secret revealed 🙂

[TheCADWhisperer]

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[ckVCFWD]

what kinda garbage is this? Length? of a circle? cool, was tryna get the diameter or like, any other useful dimensions then length lol but whatever. and don't anyone dare say you can derive the diameter from that measurement. Yeah I can churn butter myself too but if I buy a tub of butter it better not be filled with cream.

[TheCADWhisperer]

@ckVCFWD 

It is not a circle.

Can you File>Export your *.f3d file to your local drive and then Attach it here to a Reply?

[ckVCFWD]

um, yes its a circle. 100%. now if your pulling some engineer nonsense like, its not a prescribed circle, or its a circle derived from a separate process ... then im not really interested in the answer. Im here to point out how garbage the measuring tool is in hopes that it gets improved one day. whether its a true circle, squircle, or hand drawn circle. I want the diameter, no questions asked, and that is not an unreasonable request. I should even be able to free measure by clicking two undefined points and getting a simple measurement between the two spots i clicked, like most other cad programs. Not everything is about precision. I want even a ball park measurement of something so i can simply consider things. or right off options completely. as an example, this project specifically contains a bamboo shaft. something imperfect and never the same. yet I still need to include it in my model as ... well... it needs to be there? so I migrate a sketchup model of a bamboo section into fusion. now im scaling it and have an average dimension reference of the bamboo size im using in real life, but I cant measure the virtual bamboo part and make it the same size... because "its not a circle" how is this helpfull at all?

[TheCADWhisperer]

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@ckVCFWD wrote:

. because "its not a circle" how is this helpfull at all?

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@ckVCFWD 

I can't show you that it is not a circle if you don't Attach the proof here.

[ckVCFWD]

guess you didn't read what I said. please read my entire response.

[TheCADWhisperer]

@ckVCFWD 

I deal with geometry.

Mere words are too imprecise.

You seem to be irritated with the messenger that your "circle" is not a true cirle.

There are other ways to measure - but without the file...

[ckVCFWD]

I don't get it. I know perfectly well that my circle is not a circle by robot in human skin standards. That is literally the point of what im complaining about? again, if you read my response then you would understand. Or you did read it. Either way it doesn't matter, as I am not here to have a circle proven perfect or imperfect, I'm just here to complain about the measure tool. And Im not concerned what you particularly think of my complaint. unless your one of the engineers for fusion, in which case were all doomed. 

@ckVCFWD -this post has been edited due to Community Rules & Etiquette violation. 

[seth.madore]

I'm just gonna reiterate what was already said; Fusion isn't seeing that as a circle. Is this an imported design, or is it a feature created off of an imported SVG/DXF? At any rate, Fusion isn't seeing a circle. If you could share that model (or trim it back to something you can share), that'd be great, we'll be able to give you more guidance.

And just a friendly note; most everyone on this forum contributes because they want to help, please don't be so aggressive in your exchanges.

[TrippyLighting]

@ckVCFWD , I strongly suggest you avoid personal insults!

[ckVCFWD]

I dont know what personal insults your referring to, but when you act incredulous and condecending, people will tend to respond with a tad bit of emotion . i am 100% aware of my "circle" not being a circle. there is no misunderstanding. I do not need any one to look at my file and confirm this. this is the problem with engineers perspective. Engineers are like robots that bang their head against a wall cause their sensor says theres no wall and if thats what the sensor says well then... theres no wall... right? no there certainly is a wall. and this certainly is a circle. just not by the computers standards. and my complaint is that it cant measure simply between two clicked points. like even sketchup can do. why are people responding that haven't actually read and understood my responses? did you not understand the bamboo example? that is a real example that i am dealing with. there are often components in a design that are hand made, or irregular, and are not actually a part of the cad portion of the process. they cant be as they are irregular(natural like bamboo) or hand made. but having say a lamp presentation for a client that has a bamboo pole in reality, am i sposed to just have a base plate and a floating shade? no, i want to throw a bamboo pole in there because it would be insane not to. i dont want to waste time making bamboo segments so i import one from sketchup (not perfectly circular) and now i need to scale it to the real world average of the bamboo im using. cool, how to i do this if i cant measure anything on the imported bamboo segment? you cant. my complaint right there. no help needed, just a complaint about an obvious flaw in hopes of the feature being improved. I already said this but there it is again.

[jeff_strater]

"Are you trying to advertise your lack of comprehension?"

"Or you did read it and you just don't have the capacity to understand"

I think those both qualify as personal insults.  This is a professional forum, please keep your responses objective and under control.  You will find that more people are willing to help, and answer questions if you are pleasant in your interaction style.  Your posts are quite unpleasant.  This is not Twitter.

Re:  circles:  Fusion only recognizes mathematical circles as circles.  Something that just "looks" like a circle will not be measured as a circle, sorry.  Maybe AI will fix that someday.

Re:  measuring between arbitrary points.  Point taken, Fusion can only measure between selectable objects today.  Perhaps that can be added in the future.

[ckVCFWD]

sure, if you read those in full, youl find they are snarky responses to snarky attitude, it takes two to tango, that said, sure, Ill let people treat me with disrespect and just not react if thats what is required to point out flaws in the software.

"Re:  circles:  Fusion only recognizes mathematical circles as circles.  Something that just "looks" like a circle will not be measured as a circle, sorry.  Maybe AI will fix that someday. "

I am fully and completely aware of this. AI is not at all required for software to recognize edges and give measurements between them. its just a poorly considered measuring tool

"Re:  measuring between arbitrary points.  Point taken, Fusion can only measure between selectable objects today.  Perhaps that can be added in the future."

Boom, thank you, all I wanted.

[TheCADWhisperer]

For anyone who comes across this thread in a search, and you can't figure out how to measure something in your geometry - simply post the file here and I will show you how.