Flat Pattern Part Number

[AlessandroZap]

Hi Everyone,

I think it would be useful if the flat pattern of a sheet metal body would automatically inherit the part number of the component it belongs to.

I always insert flat patterns in my drawings and in my templates, there is a field for part number. If I want it to appear correctly on the drawing sheet I have to insert this information manually for each flat pattern in the properties tab in design workspace.

Hope someone would be interested in this feature.

Thanks,

AZ

[thomasDTVML]

I think that my concerns have been captured correctly. 

I understand your point of

view but disagree. I think that a part number should not be shared between things that are different shapes. You can’t use your milled part in other assemblies if it’s not exactly the same shape as at the end of all your manufacturing processes therefore different part number or at least the option to give a different part number.  

[thomasDTVML]

Hi, 

Could I have an update on this? More specifically could someone tell me whether the part number entered into the flat pattern workspace will be lost? I cannot update any drawings until I know what is going on with the part number data. I daren't click ok to the text box "There are flat pattern properties in this drawing..." (as spoken about earlier in the topic) for fear of Autodesk deleting my data permanently. 

[thomasDTVML]

You can't manually overwrite data in the parts list though can you? This is my problem. 

[AlessandroZap]

Hi Thomas,

you're right, actually you can't overwrite data in part lists. You can still enter manually a part number in the title block in drawings.

I don't know how you use drawings and part list for flat patterns, but I tried a workaround and it seems to do the job (waiting for official updates).
You can create two configurations of the same component. The body remains the same; you just have to change the part number in the properties tab of the configuration tab. You insert two part number, one for bended part and one for flat pattern (config.1 and config.2) 

Here is a video to show how it works:

[Phil.E]

@thomasDTVML 

Here is the latest update:

First, I want to thank you all for reporting on this issue. A decision has been made.

The change was intentional, however the impact was not. In order to reduce the change for you, we are now working to reverse the change that overwrote the flat pattern part numbers in previously existing designs. Important: To be completely clear: This will only be available for drawings created / existing before the change. The date for this update is not available yet, but will be posted here when it's known.

Going forward, it will be necessary to adopt the use of Configurations or Derive workflows to give flat patterns unique part number properties.

Here is what will happen:

The original data has been preserved. If you have existing drawings with flat patterns, those drawings will continue to show the properties of the flat patterns. Any already affected drawings will revert to the original custom part number properties upon being opened.

Going forward:

To have a unique part number property for a sheet metal flat pattern, and also potentially use both parts in one drawing file, one of the following workflows will be required.

• Configurations – Configure the parts to add unique part numbers. In the drawing, create sheets/views using each configuration, flat and folded. The configuration carries the unique part numbers.
• Derive – Derive both the flat pattern and folded model into a new design and create unique part number properties for each.

[Phil.E]

I just tested the latest Fusion Insider build (*slated for release later in May) and see the intended behavior as described in my recent post.

• Legacy data will perform as it was written, new data must use a new workflow such as configurations or derive to continue with separate folded/flat part numbers.

I opened some of my drawings that had been "migrated" and they reverted back to the original state. If you want to test/confirm this before the May major update, sign up for Fusion Insider if you aren't already. It would be nice to get confirmation from one of you that the fix is correctly working with your data, although I'm confident you will find good results.

A note of caution about Fusion Insider: Once a file has been saved in Fusion Insider it has a new schema which prevents it opening in older versions (such as current production Fusion). It's a full new release of Fusion and is not backward compatible. If you edit/save a file using Fusion Insider, you will have to wait until Fusion (production) catches up to Insider, later in May when the full release happens. 

[Phil.E]

The Insider build was promoted to current production and contains the fix for the legacy part number/name issue. 

Fusion can now be updated to build 2601.1.37 to get the fix.

(go to the Help menu > check for updates)

Thanks for the reports!

[AlessandroZap]

Sorry, I couldn’t test the fix before the major update, but I’m glad to hear the everything is working fine.

Good job!

[I_K_H_]

I like the way you are thinking! I would love that. Another feature Fusion should do is when the flat pattern is activated, somewhere you should be able to see what the part number is for this flat pattern (which would be the number you assign in the design properties). Maybe down in the right-hand corner instead of just saying flat pattern.