Can't move my model .1mm to the right!@!!!

Can't move my model .1mm to the right!@!!!

ctbram
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Can't move my model .1mm to the right!@!!!

ctbram
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Here is a link that shows the problem.  Somehow I shifted my entire model 0.1mm to the left.  I need to get it shifted back to the centerline because I cannot mirror using the origin plane while it is shifted!@!!!!!

 

But I can't shift the model.  I have tried putting all the components in a single component and moving the top level component to the right 0.1mm, but it still shifts .1mm from the origin!!!

 

here is a link showing the problem https://imgur.com/a/27KjquA

 

and I will attach an f3z link

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TheCADWhisperer
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Are all of your Sketches fully defined (especially Sketch1 - the very foundation of your design)?

Are there any unresolved issues indicated in your Timeline?  If so, why were they not resolved as they occurred?

 

Does Ctrl B (CMD B on Mac) report any issues?

 

Do you have a logically Grounded component?

 

As I look over the design my impression is that if this was my work I would start over from scratch using what was learned from this attempt.

TheCADWhisperer_0-1636292094759.png

I recommend stopping after each new sketch and Attaching the file here for guidance from the experts.  (Tip:  If you are recreating a bunch of circles - you are doing too much work.)

TheCADWhisperer_1-1636292173678.png

I recommend stopping after each new feature and Attaching the file here and asking for guidance from the experts.

 

Tip:  We cannot manufacture perfect parts in the real world.  You must include realistic tolerances for manufacture and assembly of mating components.

TheCADWhisperer_2-1636292449507.png

 

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ctbram
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All I am asking is why when I move my model the origin seems to move with
it! I can select all the components and move them 100 miles and when I am
done I look and the model is still 0.1 mm left of the origin! The origin
moves WITH the model. It there a way to move the model relative t
the origin? I want the left-right center of my model to align with the
origin! I can't understand why this is so impossible to achieve???

I can delete all history, I don't care at this point in the design. I just
want the **** thing aligned with the origin!
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jeff_strater
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can you explain what is not aligned correctly, and to what?  I looked at this design over the weekend, and I could not tell.  The image you linked to did not explain what is not aligned right.  You say "I look and the model is still 0.1 mm left of the origin", but, don't say what "the model" is not aligned with, or what origin.  Each component has its own origin.  Thanks.


Jeff Strater
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ctbram
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If you look at the imgur image you can see the center of the part is 0.1mm left of the origin.

 

The origin appears to be locked to the part.  If I try to move the model 0.1mm right the origin moves with it.  In fact, if I can move the entire model and all the components any distance to the right say 10m, when I look at the front of the model the center of the model is still 0.1mm left of the new origin.  That is to say moving the model also moves the origin so the model relative to the origin STAYS THE SAME.  

 

I want to just align the center of the model with the god **** origin?>?????  So I can mirror using the center plane of the origin.

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ctbram
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apparently, I uploaded and very old and inaccurate archive of the model.  However, as bad as it is what I am asking does not require starting over.

 

I just need to know how to align the center of the model left-to-right with the origin???

 

When I try to move the model the origin is moving with it so the model is always 0.1mm left of the origin.  How do I align the center of the model (left-to-right) with the **** origin???  It seems totally retarded that there is no way to either move the origin relative to the part or the part relative to the origin???  Why are they perma-locked together?

 

I can't figure out how to do it and in my opinion, it is **** that it seems to be so NON-INTUITIVE!~!!!

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jeff_strater
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it is not clear what you mean by "the model" or "the origin".  There are several components in this model.  Each component has its own origin, and the overall model itself also has an origin.  The design you shared has components' origin aligned with the global origin.  But, when I try to move green component, it certainly moves away from the global origin.  Here is a video showing some of what I am referring to.  If you can clarify what is not working, it will help us solve this.

 


Jeff Strater
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ctbram
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okay, now I am really confused? Did you look at the Imgur image the point
shows the (left to right) center of the point. The global origin is shown
and it is to the right of the center yz plane of the part. By part, I am
talking about the entire assembly.

when I select the green head and do a move the origin moves with it and the
center of that part is still to the left of the global origin. Is there
another move command or align command that moves just the part and NOT the
origin with it that I am missing?
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ctbram
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okay, I see what is happening.  Do you see the construction lines that form a cross?  The point at the intersection is the center of the head.  For now, that is all I am interested in.  I want to move the center of the part to align with the yz plane of the origin.  I just realized the point and construction lines are NOT moving with the part, and since I was moving it such a small amount, it made me think the center of the part was not moving.

 

If I move the part 0.1 mm to the right and then put a point at the center of the part it is now aligned with the yz plane of the origin.  Or in other words, the distance from the yz plane to the right and left side of the head is now 45.85mm. 

 

I just selected all the components and moved them -0.1mm in the x-direction and now everything is where I want it to be.  It was the sketch that I thought would move with the part that got me all twisted around the axle.  I am not sure why the sketch does not move with the part.  But now I know that sketches don't move with bodies they were constrained to I've learned a valuable lesson.

 

Your video showed me my error.  I have everything aligned now.

 

Thank You!

 

and sorry for all the confusion.  It was the sketch not moving with the head component that had me all discombobulated.

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