Can't get circular shapes to constrain.

Can't get circular shapes to constrain.

wilburg
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Can't get circular shapes to constrain.

wilburg
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I build a sketch and have no difficulty getting lines and non-curvilinear shapes to become constrained.  However when I add curved shapes (arc, circles) to the sketch, even if they are attached to fully constrained geometry in the sketch, I cannot get them to become constrained.  Any idea?

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wmhazzard
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Please post an f3d file that shows your problem. If you add dimensions to the constraints you should not have a problem, unless you are dealing with one of the many bugs in the sketch environment. See that my sketch is fully constrained.

 

sketch.JPG

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TheCADWhisperer
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File>Export and then Attach your *.f3d file here that exhibits this behavior.

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wilburg
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I have found a solution

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wilburg
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I'm still having trouble getting arcs, and fit point splines to constrain.  In the attached f3d file, I have a sketch which was fully constrained.  I then attempt to join two line endpoints (both lines fully constrained) with either a series of arcs, or a fit post spline, and the resulting curved segment refuses to become constrained.  I have tried everything I can think of, but no go.

 

Have you any ideas?

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TheCADWhisperer
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jeff_strater
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Nice video, @TheCADWhisperer .  Thanks for sharing that.

 

Fully constraining fit point splines is tricky, and some would argue, might not be worth doing at all.  To fully constrain even a simple fit point spline, you have to:

  • fully dimension or constrain every single fit point
  • fully constrain any "active" tangent or curvature handles

You can do it, but it is often not worth the effort.

 


Jeff Strater
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wilburg
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Hi,

I appreciate your video, and it helped me understand how to simplify my sketch and make progress toward fully constraining it.

It ended, however, before actually showing me how I might constrain the fit point spline.

I’ve tried replacing the spline with multiple tangent arcs, and can’t seem to get those curves constrained.

If you have additional ideas, I would be thankful for anything you might be able to provide.

Thanks,


Wilbur
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TheCADWhisperer
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@wilburg wrote:
I’ve tried replacing the spline with multiple tangent arcs, and can’t seem to get those curves constrained.

If you have additional ideas, I would be thankful for anything you might be able to provide.

Attach the latest version here.

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wilburg
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I am attaching my most recent version of the offending file.  Everything in the sketch named "side sketch" is fully constrained except for three three point arcs, and I can't seem to get these to cooperate regardless of what I have done.

 

I would have suspected that when creating geometry which is connected to already constrained stuff, the new additions would be constrained as well.  The only thing I could think to do is to lock in the radii of the arcs - that didn't work.

 

Anything you can do to help me understand would be fully appreciated

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TheCADWhisperer
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Missing an arc radius dimension and arc location (centerpoint) dimensions.

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