【初歩的な質問です】スケッチを使用しない方法

M_OH5
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【初歩的な質問です】スケッチを使用しない方法

M_OH5
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下記のスケッチ書きました。

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10mmで押し出した結果です。

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内側のくり抜いた四角形のスケッチを書かずに(外側の四角形のみ)

上記スケッチと同じ位置と大きさで四角の穴を開ける事は可能でしょうか?

 

よろしくお願いいたします。

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Bunga777
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一応できますけど、あまり意味がないと思う……。

 

まずは移動コピー

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縮尺

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2個めの穴も同じ手順

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最後ブーリアン演算で終了。

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M_OH5
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@Bunga777 さん

 

いつも大変お世話になっております。

 

図解ありがとうございます。確かにあまり意味が無さそうですね..

例えばCチャンを作るとすると、C型のスケッチを描いて押し出しよりも直方体を書いてシェルの方が

シンプルなスケッチになるのでこのケースもそういった方法があるのか?と思い質問させていただきました。

 

ありがとうござました。

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Bunga777
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くり抜き形状も押し出しでボディにしておいて、ブーリアン演算で最終的な形状を作るというのは、実務でも良くやります。

その場合でも、押し出した形状のスケッチ自体はしっかり書きますし、寸法や拘束もしっかり付けてスケッチ線を黒くしておくというのは必ずやりますし、そこは手を抜くべきではない部分だと思っています。

 

なのでスケッチも各ボディや機能毎に書いたほうが良く、極端な話下記のようなスケッチではなくて、

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外側、

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1つ目の穴

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2つ目の穴 

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という感じで3つスケッチがあり、それぞれを押し出すというのが理想だと思います。

 

まぁ、もちろんこれほど単純な形状ならば最初のスケッチのように一つのスケッチに書いてしまうのは全然OKなのですが、もっと複雑になってくると押し出し毎にスケッチを分けるほうが、後々のトラブルが少なくなりますし、モデルの見通しが良くなります。

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@M_OH5 さん、

 

ボディのコピー、面のオフセット、押し出し+交差を二回、結合切り取りでスケッチを描かずに目的の形状をモデリングすることはできます。設計情報の内、端面からの距離を面のオフセットで、また穴の大きさを押出しで定義するというやり方になります。

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    3Dモデリングのミスの多くがスケッチ起因であることは確かなことなのでなるべくシンプルなスケッチ(もしくは描かない)というのは良い方針だと思います。しかしながら設計情報を明確に定義して管理するという点では逆効果になってしまうこともあってやり過ぎには注意する必要があるかなと思います。今回の場合ですと穴毎に個別の四角スケッチを描いて管理するのが一番良さそうですね。

     

    ただ私がご紹介したものもどこかで役に立つと思いますので是非一度トライしてみてください。

    M_OH5
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    @adachitech7 さん

     

    いつも大変お世話になっております。

     

    図解ありがとうございます。早速試してみました。

     

    同じモデルをコピーして押し出し、オフセット(交差)で穴の形状を作成して抜く方法ですね。

    同じように行えました。気になった点としては頭の中でどの端をオフセットしたのかを頭でイメージしないと

    いけない点があり、最初のボディを表示させたまま作業を行うとボディをが連動してしまうので

    抜く前のボディを表示させつつ(薄くでも)クリ抜きのボディ作成を行う事は可能でしょうか?

     

    また、下記の状態の際に、この面の選択は可能でしょうか?

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    初歩的な質問ですがよろしくお願いいたします。

     

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    Bunga777
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    まずそういうシーンで使える機能としては、ボディを右クリック→不透明度です。

    これで大元のボディを半透明にしておくと便利です。

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    次に重なっている面を選択するときの長押しの挙動ですが、長押しから面を選択する際に該当する各ボディがハイライト表示されるので、どちらの面かわかるようになっています。

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      @M_OH5 さん、

      コピーしたボディの上下面をオフセットして厚みを変えてから作業すればどうでしょう。

      交差の操作は対象のボディを選択することができます。ボディ1のチェックを外して交差の対象から外してしまえばOKですね。

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        @Bunga777 さん

         

        いつも大変お世話になっております。

         

        今朝先ほどご返信させていただいた分が消えてしまっていて遅れてすみません。

         

        スケッチを分けるとモデルの見通しがよくなるというのは想像が出来ます!次からそのように作成してみます!

        ありがとうございました!

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        M_OH5
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        @Bunga777 さん

         

        いつも大変お世話になっております。

         

        動画解説ありがとうございます。

        早速試してみました。長押しの件、何度か試みた事があるのですが、ハイライトされますね。

        面面面面が何をさしているのか、(階層の順番かと思いますが)

        右側の親タブもどういう挙動なのか不明なので色々触ってみます。

         

        一点疑問だったのが、面をオフセットだと不透明にしたボディにオフセットは影響しませんが、押し出しを選択すると

        不透明にしたボディも連動してしまいます。(選択は不透明のボディではない)ペーストの際に問題があったのか..確か

        連動するペーストと連動しないペーストがあったような..とすると連動するペーストの場合、オフセットは何故連動しないのか..などまた疑問が出てきてしましました..

         

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        M_OH5
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        @adachitech7 さん

         

        いつも大変お世話になっております。

         

        動画解説ありがとうございます。早速試してみました。

         

        ボディ1をそのままに、ボディ2を加工するとして、最初の厚みを上下に足すオフセットする際に長押しをしてボディ2の上下面を選択しようとしてもうまくいかず、動画で示しておられるように先ず、ボディ1を不可視にしてやってみたところ、つまづくことなく最後まで出来ました!

         

        応用の幅が広がりました!ありがとうございました!

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        Call Tracking
        We use Call Tracking to provide customized phone numbers for our campaigns. This gives you faster access to our agents and helps us more accurately evaluate our performance. We may collect data about your behavior on our sites based on the phone number provided. Call Tracking Privacy Policy
        Wunderkind
        We use Wunderkind to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Wunderkind. Ads are based on both Wunderkind data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Wunderkind has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Wunderkind to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Wunderkind Privacy Policy
        ADC Media
        We use ADC Media to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by ADC Media. Ads are based on both ADC Media data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that ADC Media has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to ADC Media to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. ADC Media Privacy Policy
        AgrantSEM
        We use AgrantSEM to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by AgrantSEM. Ads are based on both AgrantSEM data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that AgrantSEM has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to AgrantSEM to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. AgrantSEM Privacy Policy
        Bidtellect
        We use Bidtellect to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Bidtellect. Ads are based on both Bidtellect data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Bidtellect has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Bidtellect to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Bidtellect Privacy Policy
        Bing
        We use Bing to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Bing. Ads are based on both Bing data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Bing has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Bing to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Bing Privacy Policy
        G2Crowd
        We use G2Crowd to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by G2Crowd. Ads are based on both G2Crowd data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that G2Crowd has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to G2Crowd to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. G2Crowd Privacy Policy
        NMPI Display
        We use NMPI Display to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by NMPI Display. Ads are based on both NMPI Display data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that NMPI Display has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to NMPI Display to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. NMPI Display Privacy Policy
        VK
        We use VK to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by VK. Ads are based on both VK data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that VK has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to VK to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. VK Privacy Policy
        Adobe Target
        We use Adobe Target to test new features on our sites and customize your experience of these features. To do this, we collect behavioral data while you’re on our sites. This data may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, your IP address or device ID, your Autodesk ID, and others. You may experience a different version of our sites based on feature testing, or view personalized content based on your visitor attributes. Adobe Target Privacy Policy
        Google Analytics (Advertising)
        We use Google Analytics (Advertising) to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Google Analytics (Advertising). Ads are based on both Google Analytics (Advertising) data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Google Analytics (Advertising) has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Google Analytics (Advertising) to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Google Analytics (Advertising) Privacy Policy
        Trendkite
        We use Trendkite to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Trendkite. Ads are based on both Trendkite data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Trendkite has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Trendkite to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Trendkite Privacy Policy
        Hotjar
        We use Hotjar to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Hotjar. Ads are based on both Hotjar data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Hotjar has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Hotjar to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Hotjar Privacy Policy
        6 Sense
        We use 6 Sense to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by 6 Sense. Ads are based on both 6 Sense data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that 6 Sense has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to 6 Sense to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. 6 Sense Privacy Policy
        Terminus
        We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
        StackAdapt
        We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
        The Trade Desk
        We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
        RollWorks
        We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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