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Post Processer fail

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Message 1 of 9
Anonymous
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Post Processer fail

I am facing problem for Tapping operation. Getting post process fail massage. Please suggest solution.

Please refer attached file.

Regards.

 

Umesh Joshi 

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Message 2 of 9
engineguy
in reply to: Anonymous

@Anonymous 

 

Not able to replicate your issue here using the 802D Post Processor so I would be guessing that there is a setting wrong in your f3d file, always better if you can upload a file that has the problem.

 

Meantime attached is a Tapping test example file and the PP used to create the code shown below, hope it is of some help to you 🙂

; %_N_1001_MPF
N10 ; T2 D=8 CR=0 - ZMIN=-11 - right hand tap
N11 G90 G94
N12 G71
N13 G64
N14 G17
N15 G53 G0 Z0
N16 ; Drill2
N17 T2 D1
N18 M6
N19 S300 M3
N20 G54
N21 M8
N22 X0 Y0
N23 Z15
N24 G17
N25 MCALL CYCLE84(5, -1, 5, -11, , , 3, , 1.25, 0, 300, 300)
N26 MCALL
N27 G0 X0 Y0 Z15
N29 G53 G0 Z0
N30 M30

Stay Safe

Regards

Rob

Message 3 of 9
boopathi.sivakumar
in reply to: Anonymous

@Anonymous

Probably you are trying to use unsupported tapping cycle.. 

To be precise are you trying to use tapping with chip breaking? In this case you might get error.


Boopathi Sivakumar
Senior Technology Consultant

Message 4 of 9

@boopathi.sivakumar 

 

Spot on as usual, forgot about that one 🙂 🙂 🙂

 

@Anonymous 

There is the answer for you from @boopathi.sivakumar 

 

Stay Safe

Regards

Rob

Message 5 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: boopathi.sivakumar

Thanks for replay.
I am using tapping with chip breaking. If it is unsupported what is the
solution.
Message 6 of 9
engineguy
in reply to: Anonymous

@Anonymous 

 

Is it supported on your machine ? Does your machine have "Rigid Tap" capability ?

 

If the machine has the "Rigid Tap" capability then (Without using floating Tap holder) you can simply program the hole more than once at different depths so for example the thread is to be 15mm deep, first tap (84 Cycle) depth goes to -5mm, the machine just completes the cycle then stays at the hole X/Y positions and then does a second cycle but with a 10mm depth, and a third cycle going to the full 15mm depth, this is a recognised method and some machine controls like the HAAS and Fanuc have this capability built in to the control.

I don`t think that your Siemens 802D will have it but it may be an "option" that can be turned on, contact Siemens for this or consult your Siemens Manual.

 

There are few machines that have the proper chip breaking cycles capability, I used to have a Japanese SUGINO Drill/Tap machine that used a system where I would input the number of the pitch to go in and the number of pitch moves to break the chips, eg M6 x 1.0, program in 3 and back 0.75, depending on material, brilliant machine 🙂 🙂

 

@boopathi.sivakumar  may be able to modify your existing PP to enable the different depth system as in the HAAS but as far as I know it is coded in the control and is called up by the 84 cycle command.

Or maybe the 840D PP will work for you ??

 

For now all I could find is a modified 840D PP that does output the correct chip breaking code, see below for an example of an M8 x 1.25 tapped hole with chipbreaking.

; %_N_1001_MPF
N10 ; T2 D=8 CR=0 - ZMIN=-10 - right hand tap
N11 WORKPIECE(,,,"BOX",112,0,-10,80,26,26,-26,-26)
N12 G90 G94
N13 G71
N14 G64
N15 G17
N16 G0 SUPA Z0 D0

N17 ; M8 x 1.25 Tap
N18 T2 D1
N19 M6
N20 S400 M3
N21 G54
N22 G0 X0 Y0
N23 G0 Z15
N24 M8
N25 G17
N26 MCALL CYCLE84(5, 0, 5, -10, , 0, 3, , 1.25, 0, 400, 400, 0, 0, 0, 1, 2, 0.16) The 0.16 is the Chip break distance I set 🙂
N27 X0 Y0
N28 MCALL
N29 G0 Z15

N31 M30

 

 

Anyway, PP file attached and the small Fusion file that I created for the test.

 

Hope this is of some help and that @boopathi.sivakumar  can sort out a PP for you 🙂 🙂

 

Stay Safe

Regards

Rob

Message 7 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: engineguy

Thanks for the support.

I have tried with the PP you have given. 

Still get error. I have attached herewith the error details and the my project. 

Regards

 

Umesh Joshi

Message 8 of 9
boopathi.sivakumar
in reply to: Anonymous

The best way to try it out is siemens-808d post which supports for tapping with chip breaking cycle. you can post process with that and check whether that works for you or not


Boopathi Sivakumar
Senior Technology Consultant

Message 9 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: boopathi.sivakumar

Thank you for support.

I understood Siemens 802d do not support Tapping with chip breaking cycle. Hence no problem with Fusion 360 PP.

We tried the program which you have given.

Thanks & Regards

 

Umesh Joshi

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