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No Linear Command Error.. MAZAK Quick Turn

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tyleradams8
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No Linear Command Error.. MAZAK Quick Turn

tyleradams8
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I'm trying to post a program and keep getting this error, machine is a Mazak Quick Turn 250 MY, I have attached the error message from the machine, as well as a sample of the code Program #8001.. I have also attached another piece of code from a previously ran program that had no error just for reference.. (Program # 1923).

 

I've tried to play around with the code  not extremely experienced with code editing

 

Thanks

Tyler 

 

IMG_6190.jpg

 

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No Linear Command Error.. MAZAK Quick Turn

I'm trying to post a program and keep getting this error, machine is a Mazak Quick Turn 250 MY, I have attached the error message from the machine, as well as a sample of the code Program #8001.. I have also attached another piece of code from a previously ran program that had no error just for reference.. (Program # 1923).

 

I've tried to play around with the code  not extremely experienced with code editing

 

Thanks

Tyler 

 

IMG_6190.jpg

 

Bad Program.pngGood Program.png

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daniel_lyall
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Is G53.5 a valid command on this machine where it is in the post it may just need to be moved what needs to be before and after it?


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Is G53.5 a valid command on this machine where it is in the post it may just need to be moved what needs to be before and after it?


Win10 pro | 16 GB ram | 4 GB graphics Quadro K2200 | Intel(R) 8Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v3 @ 3.50GHz 3.50 GHz

Daniel Lyall
The Big Boss
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My Websight, Daniels Wheelchair Customisations.
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tyleradams8
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@daniel_lyall  supposedly the G53.5 is a Mazak specific work coordinate (I believe to utilize the conversational work offsets etc..) I will try moving it around a little bit and see what happens..

 

 

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@daniel_lyall  supposedly the G53.5 is a Mazak specific work coordinate (I believe to utilize the conversational work offsets etc..) I will try moving it around a little bit and see what happens..

 

 

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tyleradams8
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@daniel_lyall  *UPDATE this is the Error description in the Manual for  #917

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Cause: (The second block of the geometric command is not given in the linear command(G1)

Action: Correct the program so that the linear command (G1) and the federate command are given to the second block)

 

This is confusing to me for several reasons, for one, by second block does that not reference the first block in the program? why does the error message state block 6 *Red bar at bottom of first image on cnc control..(917 No Linear Command in 2nd Block - 8000,   1,     6  )

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@daniel_lyall  *UPDATE this is the Error description in the Manual for  #917

 IMG_6256.jpg

Cause: (The second block of the geometric command is not given in the linear command(G1)

Action: Correct the program so that the linear command (G1) and the federate command are given to the second block)

 

This is confusing to me for several reasons, for one, by second block does that not reference the first block in the program? why does the error message state block 6 *Red bar at bottom of first image on cnc control..(917 No Linear Command in 2nd Block - 8000,   1,     6  )

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tyleradams8
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*Another Update.. So I skipped the first operation in the program (Turning) and went down to a milling block and it ran just fine..below is a sample of the code (in the same program) that ran just fine.. hmmm so I'm assuming it's some sort of turning code only issue at this point..

 

CODE from Program 8001 That Ran Fine

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*Another Update.. So I skipped the first operation in the program (Turning) and went down to a milling block and it ran just fine..below is a sample of the code (in the same program) that ran just fine.. hmmm so I'm assuming it's some sort of turning code only issue at this point..

 

CODE from Program 8001 That Ran Fine

Screen Shot 2020-10-23 at 9.15.31 AM.png

 

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Anonymous
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At the bottom of NC code you uploaded to your first post, there is stand alone "F", is that how things work on Mazak, does that relate to something in correct order?

 

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At the bottom of NC code you uploaded to your first post, there is stand alone "F", is that how things work on Mazak, does that relate to something in correct order?

 

2020-10-23 09_53_04-No Linear Command Error.. MAZAK Quick Turn - Autodesk Community - Fusion 360.png

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tyleradams8
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@Anonymous Yes, So supposedly you are supposed to assign the Tool Id Code from the Mazak tool library (F in this case) to the tool product ID in the tool settings in Fusion 360 before you post the code.. Although I don't believe that is what's causing the problem here, it is a completely separate issue, as the controller does not pick up on this tool code and respective offsets, but instead uses the tool at the top of the tool list for that turret position. I have started a completely different thread for that issue alone..

 

I'm not sure if I am out in left field here or if there really is not much utilization of this post/machine combo and there are still bugs to be worked out.

 

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@Anonymous Yes, So supposedly you are supposed to assign the Tool Id Code from the Mazak tool library (F in this case) to the tool product ID in the tool settings in Fusion 360 before you post the code.. Although I don't believe that is what's causing the problem here, it is a completely separate issue, as the controller does not pick up on this tool code and respective offsets, but instead uses the tool at the top of the tool list for that turret position. I have started a completely different thread for that issue alone..

 

I'm not sure if I am out in left field here or if there really is not much utilization of this post/machine combo and there are still bugs to be worked out.

 

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Anonymous
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Well, it was shot in the dark, I fed some parts to Mazaks over the years but never got down to learning Mazatrol and those few machines I did run were using CAM generated code that looked same as code i run on other  machines.

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Well, it was shot in the dark, I fed some parts to Mazaks over the years but never got down to learning Mazatrol and those few machines I did run were using CAM generated code that looked same as code i run on other  machines.

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tyleradams8
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@Anonymous  So I removed the letter designation from the program for the tool and that took care of the linear command error! So thank you for pointing that out I appreciate it... Now I just have to figure out how I'm supposed to designate my tool...

 

(This is what is posted from fusion about Tool ID/Product ID..)

Screen Shot 2020-10-23 at 1.41.58 PM.png

Here is the controller tool page.. you can see the Tool ID Code is designated with a  letter..

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@Anonymous  So I removed the letter designation from the program for the tool and that took care of the linear command error! So thank you for pointing that out I appreciate it... Now I just have to figure out how I'm supposed to designate my tool...

 

(This is what is posted from fusion about Tool ID/Product ID..)

Screen Shot 2020-10-23 at 1.41.58 PM.png

Here is the controller tool page.. you can see the Tool ID Code is designated with a  letter..

IMG_6189.HEIC.jpeg

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Anonymous
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I wish I could be of more help but unfortunately that's all gibberish to me, no prior experience with it.

Only things in my past that are somewhat related to Mazatrol were likely Okuma's "IGF" or Fanuc's "FAPT", stuff long phased out by CAD/CAM era if I am not mistaking.

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I wish I could be of more help but unfortunately that's all gibberish to me, no prior experience with it.

Only things in my past that are somewhat related to Mazatrol were likely Okuma's "IGF" or Fanuc's "FAPT", stuff long phased out by CAD/CAM era if I am not mistaking.

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daniel_lyall
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Can you set an ID manually in the controller?  


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Daniel Lyall
The Big Boss
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My Websight, Daniels Wheelchair Customisations.
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Can you set an ID manually in the controller?  


Win10 pro | 16 GB ram | 4 GB graphics Quadro K2200 | Intel(R) 8Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v3 @ 3.50GHz 3.50 GHz

Daniel Lyall
The Big Boss
Mach3 User
My Websight, Daniels Wheelchair Customisations.
Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn

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