Reorder to minimize tool changes not working correctly

Reorder to minimize tool changes not working correctly

Don.Cyr
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Reorder to minimize tool changes not working correctly

Don.Cyr
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I am having an issue with re-ordering my toolpath with NC program... Works up to the operations in the screenshot then as you can see, isn't re-ordering ops correctly... what could be causing this?

It would be nice to somehow drag & drop operations in the NC program.. Why is this not available as an option??

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oscar-cadcampilot
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Looks like this is an old problem that's crept up again. 

Can you share your Fusion 360 project here so we can evaluate it? 

Oscar Romero
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engineguy
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@Don.Cyr 

 

The reason for no "drag and drop" in the NC program will be Safety, you will see if looking  closely that there are operations that need to be performed before some other operations, it all depends on what operations that you have in each of your Setups, re-order does not move things around within a Setup, only between Setups which again is to me the correct way for it to be done.

It is pretty good at saving the user grief !!

Have you tried moving operations around both within Setups and between Setups in your Browser Tree just to see what the differences are?

 

Can you please upload that file for inspection and checking, it may be there is something in your particular file that is an issue but without it I can only say I have not seen any issue with the re-order in any recent update, current version as far as I know is 2.0.11183

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Don.Cyr
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Unfortunately, I can't share the file publicly.. I am on the latest version, checked that yesterday. As far as safety, I was a long-time FeatureCam user and this was available, slightly different as you had a separate "MF, multiple fixture" file where you would import setups from one or multiple part files/setups. Once you "broke" the ordering laid out by the software, it would give you a pop-up box with a warning about re-ordering ops and you had to check ignore to continue or cancel to keep the std ordering, there was even the option to switch back to FeatureCam ordering.

We as professionals assume the responsibility or any errors, especially in the case that we "break" the software's order of operations. If a user moves the tap before the drill and somehow crashes the machine, it isn't the fault of the software, you should be able to see that in the order of operations BEFORE you post the program. Too many users don't have the sufficient background knowledge and rely too much on the software to be a "Magic" tool. Load the posted program and hit cycle start.. Worked for several years as the applications manager for a swiss machine manufacturer and ran into that many times.. Easiest thing to do is blame the software or machine without being able to determine the root cause of what/why the issue happened.

 

This typically isn't an issue for most projects but would be nice to have as an option.

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a.laasW8M6T
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This did used to work correctly, but the NC programs seems to do re-order differently, it does some stuff right but not others, must use a different algorithm 

Andrew Laas
Senior Machinist, Scott Automation


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