Posts required for Siemens and Fadal

Posts required for Siemens and Fadal

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Posts required for Siemens and Fadal

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Hi All,

 

New to Fusion 360. Have a small shop with 2 CNC mills. We use Delcam (now Autodesk) Powermill currently to program CAM offline and send to the machines. We have posts for Powermill for the Fadal and the Siemens 840Dsl and they work great. Delcam were great in getting them sorted. We do mostly 3D machining.

 

We are looking at using Fusion 360 for programming at the machine. We have evaluated it and looks easy to use for the machinist at the machine tools for simple projects, mainly 2.5D and a little bit of 3D. Faster than Powermill for the simple 2D / 2.5D work. 

 

We have not tried any of the NC code from Fusion yet on the machines as have not had a window and before we do we have a few questions that users may be able to help us with. 

 

FOR FUSION 360

 

1. Siemens 840D. We have posted some code from Fusion and it uses the tool numbers in the code. We use tool names as we just find it easier. We have tool library of names on the control and can load tools fast by just loading the tool into the spindle and not have to worry about tool numbers. Just what we are used to. Have a library in the CAM software to pull the tools from.

A) Does anyone have a Siemens 840D post that is modified to use tool names instead of numbers?

B)  Do all the drilling and milling cycles work with the generic post?

C) I have seen on the generic post revision notes that D1 is selected as standard. To be honest we just use the length offset as measured with the renishaw tool setting post. Our current NC code does not use D1 and it works just fine and I am presuming using D1 will make no difference as the machine will look to the measured length in the tool table as we do presently. 

 

2. FADAL.  1999 year 4020 model with a 88HS control. Using a calmotion card to DNC to the control (which are great by the way - setup as a wireless FTP server and we can drop NC code onto it from the office for the machine operator). 

A) I do not see a generic FADAL post in the Fusion library. I see one on the Autodesk site for HSMwork with a .CPS extension also written in JavaScript. Anyone any experience of this working with Fusion?

B) Do the drilling / tapping cycles work?

C) Do the coolant, through spindle and flood work in the post?

 

Have seen a tutorial online for modifying the JavaScript posts to modify output but it's an hour long and don't have the time to try to figure it out and learn the post editing if I can avoid it. Any help with the above questions would be much appreciated. 

 

Regards

 

Stephen

 

 

 

 

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LibertyMachine
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The posts from Autodesk written for HSM will work just fine Fusion. It's a beautiful thing being able to share among the platforms.
Have you searched on the Post forums? Sorry I can't link (on phone) but there is a link in the Posts sticky up at top

Seth Madore
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Are you running Format 1 or 2? I've got good experience using and modifying a Fadal 88HS post. Even did a bunch of HSM testing to get the best performance out of HSMWorks. In short: yes to the the Fadal.
Neal Stein

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Hi Steinwerks,

 

very much appreciate the response. We are running format 2 on the FADAL. Is this what your post generates code to? i'm sure it's easy to change anyway. If you are Ok to share the POST whats the easiest way to get it from you? New to these forums so don't know if it's ok to post email address or will it just get trolled by a bot. 

 

Regards

 

Stephen

 

 

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Steinwerks
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My post is geared towards a Format 1 post, but it wouldn't be difficult to make sure it posts in Format 2 with the same options. Honestly you could probably start with the Generic Fanuc post in that case. I'll take a look at it sometime this weekend in that context and post back here.
Neal Stein

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Hi Steinworks,

 

How are you keeping?

 

any chance I could get the format 1 post off you for the Fadal?

 

tks

 

stephen 

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Whoops, I never did try it out! I will post the one I am using now, but be forewarned it won't work in high feedrate mode (using the useG0 set to No option), so it will post dogleg rapids. It's heavily modified so pay close attention to the code before running. If you need it changed, post back and I'll do what I can ASAP (which might not be very quick with home projects on top of my list right now).

Neal Stein

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