Manufacture gerber output files are not correct

berkelaarmrt
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Manufacture gerber output files are not correct

berkelaarmrt
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When I create a electronics project and draw a board, the manufacture output will return incorrect gerber data. All traces with a width <1mm are set to zero.

 

An user on reddit already reported a similar (same?) issue in which case the language settings was the problem. Using a ',' in a decimal number instead of a '.'

I am from the Netherlands where we also us the ',' (very annoying) but I think I have setup everything in English.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fusion360/comments/ga96hz/problem_with_gerber_export_in_f360_everything/

 

How can I work around this issue in the short term so I can order my pcb's?

 

I have create a minimal design which shows the problem. It consists of 3 traces. The first (highest) is 0.2mm width, the second is 0.8128mm width and the last (lowest) is 1.016mm width.

I have shared my design: https://a360.co/2X7UIa0

 

Fusion screenshot showing the 3 different width traces.

fusion screenshot.png

Screenshot from a gerber viewer (gerv) and it only show the lowest trace.

gerbv screenshot.png

I have also attached the generated manufacture output

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jorge_garcia
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Hi @berkelaarmrt,

I hope this message finds you well, the workaround in the mean time is to change your regionalization settings to be US that way the commas in the files get replaced with periods.

We are working to figure out where the error is specifically on our end, since the CAM processor shouldn't care at all what the regionalization settings are.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,


Jorge Garcia
​Product Support Specialist for Fusion 360 and EAGLE

Kudos are much appreciated if the information I have shared is helpful to you and/or others.

Did this resolve your issue? Please accept it "As a Solution" so others may benefit from it.
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berkelaarmrt
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Thanks! This works. I changed the regional format to Eglish (united states) in windows settings -> "region settings"

 

region.png

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sn2010
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I got the same problem, an order at Elecrow was rejected because this. My region settings are german, temporarily setting to English created correct gerber files. Ugly workaround.

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RichardHammerl
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Hi @sn2010 @berkelaarmrt 

 

just wanted to give a bit more information on the Gerber localisation problem. If it goes wrong, the aperture size definition in the Gerber files uses a comma instead of a period as delimiter in the values. It would be possible to correct this in a text editor, as a quick workaround. 

gerb-error.jpg

 

Regards,

Richard Hammerl

Autodesk
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Anonymous
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Hello,

 

same problem here - despite Fusion is configured to English language setting since first day using it. Only switching Windows to English UI language seems to help. Pretty nasty workaround, as the keyboard layout changes as well. Hopefully this bug will be fixed soon.

 

BTW, the CAM preview as well as the integrated Gerber viewer show correct results, but any 3rd party viewer reveals the problem instantly. So never trust a viewer integrated in the generating software!

 

 

Regards,

  Holger

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AutomaticRock
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Is this problem still not fixed?
I've just send my last design to our pcba supplier, and on their end my design looks like this:

Fusion-error1.jpg

 

Fusion-error2.jpg

 

I have set the environment variable:

Clipboard01.jpg

But that didn't seem to help?

 

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RichardHammerl
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Hi @AutomaticRock,

 

I hope you are well and all is okay. Thank you for your post. 

Actually the Gerber fix for polygons has been deployed with the March update of Fusion. At the moment I am not aware of other problems with gerber output. How have the gerber files been created? Did you use the CAM Processor in Fusion electronics or did you send the PCB data to the board manufacturer? 
Would it be possible to share the board / Gerber data ? So I could look into it. 

 

Best regards,

Richard Hammerl

Autodesk
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AutomaticRock
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Hi @RichardHammerl ,

The Gerber files have been made by Fusion with these settings:

fusionGerberSetting.jpg

And the weird thing is, I've 4 boards of which I've made the CAM files, all on the same day. But only one set has the meshed up copper layers and 0 width traces for tracks of <1mm width.

I've have now changed my Windows 10 settings to use the dot as decimal separator and let Fusion redo the Gerber files. Our PCBA supplier has just checked this lasted file, and now it's fine.

I don't mind sending you the board and Gerber files, but can this be done private? 
Earlier today I've also files a support ticket for this; case number 17690566.

Best regards,
Benno

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RichardHammerl
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Hi @AutomaticRock

 

that's interesting...  What are the regional settings you are working with on your Windows 10 system? 

This might be interesting for our support guys as well.  Maybe you could add this info to the ticket? 

I'm on a German windows, but just to show you the screen how it looks on my side. 

regional-windows.jpg

 

I hope this helps. 

Best regards,

Richard Hammerl

Autodesk
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AutomaticRock
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Hi @RichardHammerl ,

Besides the short date and country I have the same settings as you:

Clipboard01.jpg

As you can see I'm from the Netherlands.

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RichardHammerl
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Hi @AutomaticRock ,

 

could you please send me the files (board and Gerbers), if possible. You could it send to me as private message. I would like to have a look into it and investigate with the dev team. 

 

Thank you and best regards,

Richard Hammerl

Autodesk
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RichardHammerl
Community Manager
Community Manager

Hi @AutomaticRock ,

 

just one idea: Did you restart Fusion after you set  FORCE_DECIMAL_GERBER_OUTPUT = true ?

 

Thanks and regards,

Richard Hammerl

Autodesk
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We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
StackAdapt
We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
The Trade Desk
We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
RollWorks
We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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