Can't find 90 degree pin header 2x1 package that matches mine

[paulelong]

I'm using the PINHD-1x2/90 and the 90 degree version doesn't match mine.  Mine is like this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Uxcell-s16031200am0392-2-54mm-40-Pin-Connector/dp/B00R1LQ3FC/ref=sr_1_3?dch....  How do I get this alternate package?

Thanks, Paul

[ritste20]

no guarantees. If you're worried about fit in an assembly it's always best to actually measure the parts you plan to use or learn which dimensions are the critical ones to worry about.

Hope this helps.

[paulelong]

Thanks Steve for the response.  When I do a search for the part on Amazon, my version is the most popular.  So isn't this 90 degree pin header 2x1 a very basic part that should already be modeled?  Included a picture just in case it isn't clear what part I'm talking about.

[ritste20]

Yes, they are extremely common parts and fairly standardized except for maybe the molded plastic insulator or something like the stick-out of the pins.

That's the only reason I said about measuring the actual parts you are using. Plus components on amazon don't always come with a dimensioned drawing (which would be awesome if that was more commonplace).

Did you look at the model I attached? If that fits your needs all you would need to do is add it to your fusion library.

[paulelong]

I saw the attachment before but is was struck out with a line through it.  But now I can download and that matches what I need, thanks so much.  So I guess there is some way to make it available as a package so that when I render the part is shows up correctly?  Do I add that somehow using library manager?  Maybe there's a tutorial or guide?

Thanks,

Paul

[ritste20 · Accepted solution]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlnHfN2xznk

There is a lot of good info in this live webinar that Autodesk put on in Feb. So while I suggest watching the whole thing, around the 24 minute mark you should see how to add 3D packages to your library components.

Let me know if you have any other questions after watching the tutorial.

[paulelong]

The video was very helpful, thanks.  It's certainly a lot of steps, but I practiced a few times and was able to create a Blue LED from a Red one.  The only issue I'm seeing now is that when I "View 3D PCB", every other time it doesn't render my new 90 degree pin header.  I suppose I can work around it, but that seems like a bug.

Thanks for your help.

Paul

[ritste20]

Can you do a screencast recording so we can see what is happening when the components don't render correctly?

[paulelong]

Since I restarted Fusion 360, it doesn't happen anymore.  I tried to create a Blue LED from a Red one, and I had a bunch of problems getting the 3d part to display in the first place.  So I'm not sure I can get a repro, but I will keep trying.

Maybe related, when I look at my project I now have 3 Blue LEDs.  I'm not sure why.  I can't tell which one is associated with the package I created.  One is called LED5MM, which is the same as the RED LED (which I also have two of BTW).  And the other's are LED5MM Blue.  How can I tell which one is related to the Device I'm modifying?

[jorge_garcia]

Hi @paulelong,

I hope you're doing well. It seems like you are linked to a managed library so you'll have to make sure to keep them in sync.

One way to check is to open the 3D package and see what version it is as at. I'll ping the developers on this and see what they recommend.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

[paulelong]

Thanks Jorge, I guess you are referring to the up arrow?  My intent was to point at the device and ask why I have so many related sketches, but if you were just pointing that out as a tip, that's cool.  I suppose I understand that since I made a copy of the library to make my changes, fusion 360 is saying the original library was updated.  Is that what the icon means?  If I update the library and the LED5MM changes, will it automatically merge the changes?  Or will I lose them?

As for the version number of the 3D module, isn't that the V1 next to the part on the left?  Two of them say v2 and the other V1?  Is that the version you are referencing?  What do I compare it to?

Also, why does the footprint show as blank?  It displays properly on the 3D PCB view.  Shouldn't this reference the 3D Package I created?  Is a 3D Package the same as a package?

Sorry for the litany of questions, but since I guess I'll have to be responsible for making all the basic parts I'll need to master this part of fusion 360.  The fact that I can integrate my PCBs with a fusion 360 project is incredibly valuable, and a great idea.  

Thanks,

Paul

[paulelong]

@jorge_garcia , any more info for me?  

I tried again, this time creating a new library and importing the led (Version 5) library.  I then used "Create Package from Footprint" and said Yes to reuse 3D module of a package in this library.  I edit the package and set the appearance of the LED to Blue.  Finally I edit the device LED and add a local package and connect the pins.  

The problem is again, this time, when I view the 3D PCB, the new LEDs I created don't show up.  It also states the warning that "This version of package 3d file might have no 3d model."

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks, Paul

[ritste20]

Personally I try not to import libraries. I have created a few personal libraries divided by type of component and the only imported geometry in any of them is a step file for the 3D package if I was able to download one from the manufacturer, SnapEDA, or any of the other ECAD library sites. I'm not sure I truly understand the issue you're having because your approach isn't how I usually go about things. A screencast would make it easier to visualize the problems you're experiencing.

My general library process...

Once you have the footprint in your library. Right-click>"Create Package from footprint". Once in the package editor, you have to save the document first, but then you can navigate in the data panel to a 3D model of your component. Right-click the component and "Insert into current design".

From there if you need to change the appearance or color of the component, you can break the link to the original file and essentially create a localized copy of the model inside your 3D package file. Then save and click finish to add the package to your library.

After that, you can assemble a "device" in your library where you place the symbol, add the package, and connect the pins to the footprint to give you a complete library component.

Hope this helps.

[paulelong]

Thanks @ritste20 , following your steps I was able to create a new library and import just the LED footprint and use one of the LED 3D models that just happen to be there because of my other attempts.  Not sure what to do if I don't have a 3D model laying around, but that's ok for now.  Then I created a new Device and was able to associated the footprint with it by opening the new device, choosing new, add from local package.  Next I imported an LED symbol.  Then I used the Add Symbol button (that took me a while to figure out).  Lastly I connected the footprint to my symbol.  I'm adding this detail in case it helps somebody else.

I tested this by created a new design, adding my new symbol and viewed the PCB and it looks good.  So I think I'm good for now.  I will create a new post and create a screen cast if the problem where the PCB shows up good one time, and missing the next, shows up again.  But for now it's worked a few times in a row.  Don't know why the other method didn't work, but I just want to move forward.

Thanks for you help,

Paul

[ritste20]

Yeah, sorry I forgot there was another thread that I put a better example in.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-electronics/users-guide-for-fusion360-electronics/m-p/9684...

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Regards,

[paulelong]

#7! Argh.  Thx!