Visibility of tangential transitions

Visibility of tangential transitions

Christoph_360
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Visibility of tangential transitions

Christoph_360
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Hello everyone

 

Is there a setting so that tangential transition edges are displayed with a thinner line than sharp edges, so that you can better see optically tangential transition edges.

Does anyone have any ideas?

 

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Mfg

Christoph

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wersy
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I see no need for that.
If you don't like it, cou could switch to "Shaded".

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Christoph_360
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Hello

 

So far I have known such a representation, some of the advantages when tangential transitions are visually recognizable:

 

When modeling cam-compatible turned milled parts, you can immediately see if edges of the turning contour have not been rounded.

 

When modeling castings that consist of many fillets, you can immediately see whether there is a modeling error.

 

In the case of castings, it is easier to see which are machined parts and which are cast parts.

 

Optical visualization of castings with many ribs is better because the image is not cluttered by thick lines.

 

Mfg

Christoph

 

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TrippyLighting
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Fillets should not be part of sketches, but should be applied as features.

 

I am not aware of a CAD software that shows tangential transitions as different thicknesses in the 3D viewport.

When creating a manufacturing drawings sometimes there are setting that allow this.

 


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HughesTooling
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@Christoph_360 wrote:

Hello

 

So far I have known such a representation, some of the advantages when tangential transitions are visually recognizable:

 

When modeling cam-compatible turned milled parts, you can immediately see if edges of the turning contour have not been rounded.

 

When modeling castings that consist of many fillets, you can immediately see whether there is a modeling error.

 

In the case of castings, it is easier to see which are machined parts and which are cast parts.

 

Optical visualization of castings with many ribs is better because the image is not cluttered by thick lines.

 

Mfg

Christoph

 


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Christoph_360
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Hello

 

Trippylighting wrote:

"Fillets should not be part of sketches, but should be applied as features."

 

This view may be true from the point of view of a CAD designer, but when modeling CAM-compatible models, it looks different for the following reasons:

 

If the rotation contour is mapped in the sketch in a CAM-compatible manner, you can see the real rotation contour and its associated parameters at a glance.

 

If you define the fillets, you inflate the timeline with operations and can only query the parameters of the fillets with a lot of effort.

 

If you have grinding allowances, it becomes even more difficult to model them feature-based

 

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Which modeling technique you use depends on what the model is used for.

 

Mfg

Christoph

 

 

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TrippyLighting
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@Christoph_360 wrote:

Hello

 

Trippylighting wrote:

".. but when modeling CAM-compatible models, it looks different"

 

Which modeling technique you use depends on what the model is used for.

 


True! I did not consider the manufacturing method!

 


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Christoph_360
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Hallo

 

Vielen Dank für ihr Verständnis für die Anliegen der CAM-Seite.

 

Die Aussage "Fillets should not be part of sketches, but should be applied as features." hatte mich sehr überrascht, weil gerade mit der Skizze können anspruchsvolle Drehgeometrien einfach abgebildet werden.

 

Nochmals vielen Dank

 

MfG

Christoph

 

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Christoph_360
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Hello

 

Thank you for your understanding of the concerns of the CAM site.

 

I was very surprised by the statement "Fillets should not be part of sketches, but should be applied as features.", because it is precisely with the sketch that sophisticated turning geometries can be easily mapped.

 

Thanks again

 

Mfg

Christoph

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Christoph_360
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Hallo

 

TrippyLighting writes:

 

"I am not aware of a CAD software that shows tangential transitions as different thicknesses in the 3D viewport.

When creating a manufacturing drawings sometimes there are setting that allow this."

 

You're right, I'm surprised, I believed that the representation of tangential transition edges with a thinner line is rather standard. However, I did not find such a representation on the Internet when looking at images of solids from other CAD systems.

 

Great forum, you get a lot of new insights.

 

Thank you for your efforts.

 

Mfg

Christoph

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TrippyLighting
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@Christoph_360 wrote:

Hello

 

Thank you for your understanding of the concerns of the CAM site.

 

I was very surprised by the statement "Fillets should not be part of sketches, but should be applied as features.", because it is precisely with the sketch that sophisticated turning geometries can be easily mapped.

 

Thanks again

 

Mfg

Christoph


For complex turned parts, I can see the benefits for putting "everything" into one sketch. For any other CAD and manufacturing disciplines, generally fillets indeed do not belong into a sketch but are to be applied as solid modeling features, prefereably mostly towards the end of the feature tree/design history/timeline. . There are some instances where you have to put fillets into a sketch, for example when you are designing piping, or sweep paths.

Keeping most fillets out of sketches is is a best practice in any of the CAD systems I've worked with.

 

It has a number of advantages.

 

1. Sketches are simpler and that makes debugging a sketch much easier and often no debugging is needed.

2. That makes sketching much faster and more productive.

3. In a parametric CAD software the sketch engine has to continually "loop over" sketches and evaluate them for changes. 3D features use less computational resources and that makes for a faster model.


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Christoph_360
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Hello

 

Thank you for your efforts, but unfortunately it's not what I was looking for.

 

Mfg

Christoph

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TrippyLighting
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@Christoph_360 Please mark one of the posts as the solution. It has be stated that the functionality you are looking for does not exists. That might not be the answer you were looking for, but is still is the solution as it pertains to Fusion 360.


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