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Unable to make chamfer larger by using Press/Pull tool?

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FrodoLoggins
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Unable to make chamfer larger by using Press/Pull tool?

FrodoLoggins
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Either deletes the chamfer along the corners or gives me the below error:

 

Screenshot 2023-07-10 at 2.51.59 PM.png

 

I've definitely been able to do that before without issue but might have had design history captured while doing so.

- Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2006
- Apple M1 Max rMBP A2485 // Latest MacOS // Latest Fusion
- Usually working off files uploaded to Fusion as: Step, STL, SLDPRT. If it matters ask me.
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Unable to make chamfer larger by using Press/Pull tool?

Either deletes the chamfer along the corners or gives me the below error:

 

Screenshot 2023-07-10 at 2.51.59 PM.png

 

I've definitely been able to do that before without issue but might have had design history captured while doing so.

- Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2006
- Apple M1 Max rMBP A2485 // Latest MacOS // Latest Fusion
- Usually working off files uploaded to Fusion as: Step, STL, SLDPRT. If it matters ask me.
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TheCADWhisperer
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Consultant

Delete Face the existing Chamfer and add a new chamfer.

TheCADWhisperer_0-1689073861244.png

 

(Or always work with Capture Design History - in which case simple Edit Feature.)

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Delete Face the existing Chamfer and add a new chamfer.

TheCADWhisperer_0-1689073861244.png

 

(Or always work with Capture Design History - in which case simple Edit Feature.)

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FrodoLoggins
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Unless I'm crazy I would normally be able to make a chamfer like that larger/smaller by using the Press/Pull tool. Any idea why I need a workaround in this case?

- Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2006
- Apple M1 Max rMBP A2485 // Latest MacOS // Latest Fusion
- Usually working off files uploaded to Fusion as: Step, STL, SLDPRT. If it matters ask me.
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Unless I'm crazy I would normally be able to make a chamfer like that larger/smaller by using the Press/Pull tool. Any idea why I need a workaround in this case?

- Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2006
- Apple M1 Max rMBP A2485 // Latest MacOS // Latest Fusion
- Usually working off files uploaded to Fusion as: Step, STL, SLDPRT. If it matters ask me.
Message 4 of 9

FrodoLoggins
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I didn't make the model, a customer sent us the STEP/SLDPRT.

 

Seems like as long as I select all the flat faces of the chamfer (or all round corners of the chamfer) the Press/Pull tool should have no issue with such a simple task. Pretty sure years ago [with design history not captured] I could enlargen a chamfer as long as I selected all flat faces of the chamfer (or all round corners of the chamfer). 

 

Was this functionality removed, is it a bug, or am I misremembering?

- Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2006
- Apple M1 Max rMBP A2485 // Latest MacOS // Latest Fusion
- Usually working off files uploaded to Fusion as: Step, STL, SLDPRT. If it matters ask me.
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I didn't make the model, a customer sent us the STEP/SLDPRT.

 

Seems like as long as I select all the flat faces of the chamfer (or all round corners of the chamfer) the Press/Pull tool should have no issue with such a simple task. Pretty sure years ago [with design history not captured] I could enlargen a chamfer as long as I selected all flat faces of the chamfer (or all round corners of the chamfer). 

 

Was this functionality removed, is it a bug, or am I misremembering?

- Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2006
- Apple M1 Max rMBP A2485 // Latest MacOS // Latest Fusion
- Usually working off files uploaded to Fusion as: Step, STL, SLDPRT. If it matters ask me.
Message 5 of 9
jeff_strater
in reply to: FrodoLoggins

jeff_strater
Community Manager
Community Manager

Nothing has changed here, I am certain.  No functionality was removed.  If this is imported geometry, it is likely data specific.  Fusion has code that is a "chamfer detector".  If the geometry does not meet whatever definition of a chamfer it expects, the press/pull tool will not be able to modify it as a chamfer.  There have always been models where this is the case.  There is always the possibility of a bug, but without the model it is hard to tell...

 

What happens if you select all the chamfer faces and delete them?  Does the model heal correctly?  Can you re-add the chamfer, and if you do, does it function as you expect with Press/Pull? (as @TheCADWhisperer suggested).  That would be my best recommendation, as well.


Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
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Nothing has changed here, I am certain.  No functionality was removed.  If this is imported geometry, it is likely data specific.  Fusion has code that is a "chamfer detector".  If the geometry does not meet whatever definition of a chamfer it expects, the press/pull tool will not be able to modify it as a chamfer.  There have always been models where this is the case.  There is always the possibility of a bug, but without the model it is hard to tell...

 

What happens if you select all the chamfer faces and delete them?  Does the model heal correctly?  Can you re-add the chamfer, and if you do, does it function as you expect with Press/Pull? (as @TheCADWhisperer suggested).  That would be my best recommendation, as well.


Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
Message 6 of 9
FrodoLoggins
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FrodoLoggins
Advisor
Advisor

Deleting the chamfer works as expected.

Re-adding the chamfer within Fusion works as expected.

Press/pulling behavior shown below:

 

 

Uploaded model might contain original geometry, might have re-added chamfers at some point within Fusion. Not sure.

 

I can get the original STEP/SLDPRT if needed.

- Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2006
- Apple M1 Max rMBP A2485 // Latest MacOS // Latest Fusion
- Usually working off files uploaded to Fusion as: Step, STL, SLDPRT. If it matters ask me.
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Deleting the chamfer works as expected.

Re-adding the chamfer within Fusion works as expected.

Press/pulling behavior shown below:

 

 

Uploaded model might contain original geometry, might have re-added chamfers at some point within Fusion. Not sure.

 

I can get the original STEP/SLDPRT if needed.

- Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2006
- Apple M1 Max rMBP A2485 // Latest MacOS // Latest Fusion
- Usually working off files uploaded to Fusion as: Step, STL, SLDPRT. If it matters ask me.
Message 7 of 9
jeff_strater
in reply to: FrodoLoggins

jeff_strater
Community Manager
Community Manager

I'm confused about why you tried to press/pull the chamfer without selecting all of the chamfer faces.  First, you selected only the long faces:
Screenshot 2023-07-20 at 8.05.02 AM.png

 

Then, you selected only the corner chamfer faces:

Screenshot 2023-07-20 at 8.05.33 AM.png

 

I would not expect either of those operations to work, and I believe they have never worked.  The chamfer produces 8 faces.  I would expect to select all 8 and to have that work.  I don't have Fusion in front of me right now, but I will try to look at it later.


Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
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I'm confused about why you tried to press/pull the chamfer without selecting all of the chamfer faces.  First, you selected only the long faces:
Screenshot 2023-07-20 at 8.05.02 AM.png

 

Then, you selected only the corner chamfer faces:

Screenshot 2023-07-20 at 8.05.33 AM.png

 

I would not expect either of those operations to work, and I believe they have never worked.  The chamfer produces 8 faces.  I would expect to select all 8 and to have that work.  I don't have Fusion in front of me right now, but I will try to look at it later.


Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
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HughesTooling
Consultant
Consultant

@jeff_strater  What might be causing confusion is the difference between fillet and chamfer. With a fillet you can select just one fillet in a chain and it modifies the whole chain when you press pull but chamfer fails! Try the attached STP file.

Here just a single fillet selected.

HughesTooling_0-1689840966287.png

 

On this model Fusion will not even let me select the whole chain of chamfers. I've tried preselecting but Fusion unselects most of the chain, tried selecting the chain after starting Press Pull but Fusion will not let me select all chamfers. If I create a selection set I can get it to work so looks like selection could do with some tuning up!

Using a selection set.

HughesTooling_1-1689841454262.png

Find features doesn't work either, it finds 2 chamfers and trying to modify the chamfers doesn't work.

First chamfer Find Features creates is the top face, doesn't make much sense.

HughesTooling_3-1689841676198.png

Second chamfer only the straight sections and modifying changes the height of the part not the chamfer.

HughesTooling_2-1689841611021.png

 

 

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@jeff_strater  What might be causing confusion is the difference between fillet and chamfer. With a fillet you can select just one fillet in a chain and it modifies the whole chain when you press pull but chamfer fails! Try the attached STP file.

Here just a single fillet selected.

HughesTooling_0-1689840966287.png

 

On this model Fusion will not even let me select the whole chain of chamfers. I've tried preselecting but Fusion unselects most of the chain, tried selecting the chain after starting Press Pull but Fusion will not let me select all chamfers. If I create a selection set I can get it to work so looks like selection could do with some tuning up!

Using a selection set.

HughesTooling_1-1689841454262.png

Find features doesn't work either, it finds 2 chamfers and trying to modify the chamfers doesn't work.

First chamfer Find Features creates is the top face, doesn't make much sense.

HughesTooling_3-1689841676198.png

Second chamfer only the straight sections and modifying changes the height of the part not the chamfer.

HughesTooling_2-1689841611021.png

 

 

Mark Hughes
Owner, Hughes Tooling
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Message 9 of 9
FrodoLoggins
in reply to: jeff_strater

FrodoLoggins
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Sometimes I just need to select one face and the chamfer gets pushed/pulled. Sometimes I need to select all flat (or all round) faces.

- Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2006
- Apple M1 Max rMBP A2485 // Latest MacOS // Latest Fusion
- Usually working off files uploaded to Fusion as: Step, STL, SLDPRT. If it matters ask me.
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Sometimes I just need to select one face and the chamfer gets pushed/pulled. Sometimes I need to select all flat (or all round) faces.

- Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2006
- Apple M1 Max rMBP A2485 // Latest MacOS // Latest Fusion
- Usually working off files uploaded to Fusion as: Step, STL, SLDPRT. If it matters ask me.

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