Trying to get DXF to import to PADS

Trying to get DXF to import to PADS

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Trying to get DXF to import to PADS

Oceanconcepts
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I have a collaboration issue- I’m trying to get a PCB design to our layout person, who is using PADS. I have linked him to the file, and this is what he sees trying to import the DXF that Fusion generates. Units are correct. 

 

PADS Error 1.PNG

I’ve also tried DWG from the drawing module, with the same result. Does anyone have any ideas?

 

Thanks,

- Ron

Mostly Mac- currently M1 MacBook Pro

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HughesTooling
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One problem that's come up with DXF exports is there's no unit information in the file so the program opening the file will need some way of setting on import. Also how are you exporting a DWG, is it a 2d drawing or a 3d model.

 

Note. The DXF unit problem is an export of a sketch, i'm not sure about an export from Dashboard.

 

Mark.

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l_wcrenshaw
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I've reported similar problems trying to import DWGs/DXFs into Altium. Autodesk spent some time looking into it, but there was no resolution, that is, they felt it was an Altium problem. That being said, I can generate DWGs and DXFs all day with SolidWorks and import them into Altium w/o a problem.
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Oceanconcepts
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I’ve tried exporting both DWG from a 2D drawing and DXF from the 3D file, with the same results.  

 

I’m wondering if it may be a version issue- Fusion gives no options for DXF export. We have tried importing the DXF now into several applications, with no luck. Some gave an “unsupported version” error. However I imported a STEP file of the circuit board into my old copy of Ashlar Cobalt, then exported a DXF from that program. Cobalt gives a number of version options for DXF export. An older DXF version worked for import into several other applications, though at this point I haven’t found one that works with PADS. 

 

When it comes to collaboration in the real world, getting useable output to PCB layout programs like PADS or Altium is a huge issue. The linking to the file, the viewer, and being able to have the layout person download a file all works great in Fusion to a point, but so far has ended in frustration. Coupled with the really incomplete current implementation of drawings- with no ability to add lines, curves, or other graphical annotations to,say, indicate keep-out areas- this leaves me having to take the Fusion file into another CAD program like Cobalt or SolidWorks in order to get useable output, either as a file or even a 2D drawing. 

- Ron

Mostly Mac- currently M1 MacBook Pro

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l_wcrenshaw
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Preach. I’ve gone out of my way not to fire-up SW for the last 6mos, but had to resort to it for my last project which was sketch intensive. I decided to let the drawing module mature for at least a year before I visit it again. I’m still amazed at the what’s been accomplished to date with the program, but there’s still a long way to go…

If your work isn’t confidential, I can take the model and generate the DXF for you in SW. Maybe PADS will like that flavor. Send it to crenshaw at infiniteminddesigns.com.

Lewis W. Crenshaw, IDSA, PMP
Infinite Mind Designs
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HughesTooling
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DWG files from the drawing module will only open with Autocad, see these links.

 

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/design-and-documentation/views-are-missing-in-drawing-dwg-export/td-p/...

 http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/design-and-documentation/dwg-issues-opening-in-draftsight/td-p/5602156

 

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Oceanconcepts
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Thanks much for that offer, Lewis. While I don’t use SW myself, there are others involved in this project who do, so if needed I can get them to generate files. It’s just frustrating that it should be necessary when everything up to the point of getting the file works so well for cross-discipline collaboration. I’d done kind of a selling job about Fusion and collaboration for this project, and it looks kind of silly when it fails with the last, essential bit. Granted, electronics packages are probably the worst when it comes to file compatibility, but that’s the reality of the environment we work in.   

 

I had not tried to really use the drawings module until just now, at least for anything complex that mattered, and I was dumbfounded, and confounded, by the bizarreness of the UI. I can understand it not having all the features I’d like to see, it’s new. But it is hard to understand why some actions that should be simple to access take such a weird sequence of right-click, confirm (“continue” as an interstitial message when I want to edit a dimension? Maybe I was kidding?), left-click on a little icon- when a simple double click to edit/ move would be so much more consistent with Fusion and the rest of the world. I’d love to be part of a UX study on that module. For now, I’ll be doing drawings in Cobalt/ Graphite. 

 

Fusion has come a long ways, and I’m a big fan of it and the team. I’m convinced it’s the right program for many of us, certainly for me.  I’d really like to see some of these rough edges fixed so it can fulfill its promise of being a full design environment. 

- Ron

Mostly Mac- currently M1 MacBook Pro

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l_wcrenshaw
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That’s an open offer, so if you need something, just send me a message. I’ve been pushing F360 on anyone that will listen to me as well. It does have some rough edges, but at least you can see that there’s a committed dev team that talks to and works with their customer base to make the product better. That’s something I never saw once while using my other CAD software for 10+ years.