Rigid group and subcomponents
@g-andresen how does that address the problem described by the OP?
Each and every time you adjust the count in a properly assembled component pattern you’ll have to manually adjust the joints afterward to either add the new component(s) to the selection of the rigid group, or rPepair the yellow icon that the rigid group has become.
After severally years of no progress in the pattern tools, now they urgently need an update!
@danieleR9DDN wrote:
The only "solution" that I know can works is to make the hinges bodies instead of components. The problem is that I have a working structure that count components in BOM for know how many hinges I need and how many panels etc. If I make bodies it will not work and I need to change all. I wonder why Fusion works like this but I guess now they cannot change it.
Creating bodies instead of components is a not good idea for a number of reasons.
Of course that can change it. This has been discussed a number of times., It just hasn't bubbled to the top of the priorities.
@danieleR9DDN wrote:
I'm not exactly sure that they can change it without break some way to work of other people, at least they need to add as new functionality. For sure add this kind of function would be a great way to solve many of my headache and it had avoid alot of problems to understand the program in my early stage. Fusion 360 is very powerful but sometimes is really difficult to understand how the timeline process of recalculate the model work or doesn´t work.
@danieleR9DDN wrote:
I'm not exactly sure that they can change it without break some way to work of other people, at least they need to add as new functionality. For sure add this kind of function would be a great way to solve many of my headache and it had avoid alot of problems to understand the program in my early stage. Fusion 360 is very powerful but sometimes is really difficult to understand how the timeline process of recalculate the model work or doesn´t work.
As a user of a lot of CAD and 3D modeling software for more than 3 decades I can tell you that this can and should be changed and rather soon. The CAD software that Fusion 360 aims to compete with has NO problems with this. I have uses one such software package since 1998!
For a parametric CAD software that wants to compete in an already crowded space of mechanical and machine design, the current pattern functionality is inadequate!
You also mentioned BOM's and those only count components, so there is really no workaround. I have resorted to use OpenBOM ( I am a paid subscriber) even for my "hobby" projects, because Fusion 360's native BOM abilities are rudimentary at the very best.
@danieleR9DDN wrote:
The problem is not to change the software but that if they change the way it works, probably there will be some users that will have some solutions that will not work more.
I don't think that is the case. The Fusion 360 team is also aware that his is needed and we've had some discussions on the Autodesk Expert Elite Slack Channel. Technically this can be done without interferring with existing models. There are different approaches.
IMHO a number of timeline features could work not only parametric, but "procedural" like the nodes in SideFX Houdini, where information from one note is transferred to the next one. In this case that would be the instance counter in a pattern node/feature which automatically is updated in a subsequent rigid joint node/feature.
@danieleR9DDN wrote:
Would also be nice to have a more stable software because drawing section and derive components still does not work very well.
If you have examples of instabilities, you should post them. They look out for bug and crash reports here on the forum and often if I come across such posts/threads I tag one or more members of the Fusion 360 team.
