Possible to unlink copied components?

Possible to unlink copied components?

Noah_Katz
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Possible to unlink copied components?

Noah_Katz
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I believe I asked this either in its own thread or as a tangential question in another thread, but either I didn't get an answer or have memory loss.

 

Is there a way to convert what was a copy/paste new to an unlinked copy?

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Message 21 of 78

Anonymous
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I use the normal Paste option, because 9 times out of 10 Fusion 360 will crash if I say Paste New.

Rather then save my model, wait for it to finish uploading, try to Paste New, program crashes, open it again, wait for it to load, then remake the component from scratch anyway. I just use Paste, and hope they don't need to be unique down the road.

I don't know why the program crashes, but I know it's a weakness in my models.

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Message 22 of 78

Noah_Katz
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You could try Paste New into a new design file, than insert the design into your model.

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Message 23 of 78

laughingcreek
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@Anonymous -paste new is a regular part of my workflow.  I doesn't ever crash fusion for me.  It's possible that there is something about the way you model that causes this problem for you.  Can you post an example model where this happens?  AD would probably be interested in seeing it. 

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Message 24 of 78

Anonymous
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I just tried that pasting new into a new window. Still crashes.

I don't know why or when it will crash. I just tried making a simple file with the latest example of it crashing. Of course it works fine in my simple model, but crashes my more complex model. 

I can't figure out what does it. I just tried adding a link inside my simple model (thinking in my more complex model, having linked files causes grief), but nope. 

I don't want to hijack a thread, so if you feel inclined I'll start a new thread and post my model there and see if anyone else can paste new in it. I just tried with another component and it seems it doesn't matter what component I try to paste new it will crash. 

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Message 25 of 78

TrippyLighting
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@Anonymous wrote:

 

I don't want to hijack a thread, so if you feel inclined I'll start a new thread and post my model there and see if anyone else can paste new in it. I just tried with another component and it seems it doesn't matter what component I try to paste new it will crash. 


Yes, it would probably be a good idea to start a new thread and link back here so we can find it.

I can say that Fusion 360 has not crashed for me in a long time.


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Message 26 of 78

yebyps
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I got into a similar fix.  I had two solar panels with added components and holes to fix them. I thought they were going to be identical so used just Paste because I was lazy and didn't want to duplicate the work on each.  Then after a few hours work I realised they would have minor differences - one panel had additional fittings and holes which I didn't want on the other panel.  This is a kludge but it helped me out:

 

Each panel was a separate sub-assembly with child components. Everything done to panel A was duplicated in panel B. Lets say each sub had four child components: a, b, c, d.   I wanted a within A to be different to a within B.  So with A activated, I copied a, and did Paste New which dropped the copy into the A sub. Then I renamed the copy of a for clarity, lets say to aa. Simultaneously of course a copy of a appeared in sub B automatically, and the renaming was also automatic.  Then I hid a in the A sub, and hid aa in the B sub.  Since a is not linked to aa, I was able to change the visible components to be different and ignore the hidden ones.  

 

What happens when I try to move stuff with joints who knows? I guess all hell will break loose. But maybe I can duplicate the joints with the new components, or just join a to aa. I'll see.  

 

Cheers

Alan

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Message 27 of 78

vdemcak
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Right Click > Make Independant

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Message 28 of 78

TrippyLighting
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That only works in Direct Modeling mode. 


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Message 29 of 78

CapGuy
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Hello all,

 

I agree with Peter (@TrippyLighting) the solution (done) is not a solution while we are in parametric mode, and I as far as I know I cannot uncheck it as a solution...
BTW for a real help from the forum, it could be possible to know who checked it as solution and ask him to uncheck it ! 

Best Regards,
Guy

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Message 30 of 78

daniel_lyall
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  • If the op was in direct it is the solution the op would of done it.


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Message 31 of 78

Noah_Katz
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BTW for a real help from the forum, it could be possible to know who checked it as solution and ask him to uncheck it ! 

 

That was me, I accidentally accepted it, but I unchecked it.

Message 32 of 78

kodymcdonald
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This worked for me, thanks!

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Message 33 of 78

Anonymous
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I made a base element, did not know that I needed to "paste new" and then did a ton of work related to other bodies on the secondary copy while the other copy was hidden from view. Now I am royally screwed up the arse because the original is destroyed and the only way to fix it is to destroy and rebuild because it is that much simpler. Every program I have ever utilized has the ability to unlink copied components at will, I believe it's a complete farce that you really see this as problematic. It has been 3 years since this was posted and users are still struggling. Just because you got used to it in a certain way does not mean it's the ideal way for most users. 

Message 34 of 78

laughingcreek
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is your time line on?  you can roll back to before the changes, create your new copy then roll back without losing anything.

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Message 35 of 78

daniel_lyall
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Most people make this mistake I have a few times https://help.autodesk.com/view/fusion360/ENU/?guid=GUID-9EDE876B-6A97-47E9-AB87-F27ADFFDCEE9

Try what @laughingcreek said it can work if the copied part is in the same places as when you copy it, it should drop into the same places.


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Message 36 of 78

Anonymous
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a big mess

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Message 37 of 78

PhotoGD
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Did not work for me, I'm trying to edit the threads on a copied body but it still edits the threads on the original body.

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Message 38 of 78

Noah_Katz
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Not sure what exactly you did, but what works for me (almost) every time is to

 

Copy the component

 

Paste New into a new design file

 

Copy/Pate New back into the original design file

 

"Almost" because a couple of times it didn't work unless I renamed the component in the new design file, and/or save the new design file.

 

It's possible that I fat-fingered it or something was going on that I didn't understand.

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Message 39 of 78

Anonymous
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Thanks
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Message 40 of 78

Scoox
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To this day I don't understand why Make independent is only available in direct modelling. Paste as New is no replacement for make independent because it requires users to anticipate every possible feature of the design before it's even designed, which of course is impossible. If once the design is completed you need to add a hole in a component that is a non-independent copy of another component, in some cases the task could be daunting.

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