point to point snapping targets in new Move command changed

point to point snapping targets in new Move command changed

cekuhnen
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point to point snapping targets in new Move command changed

cekuhnen
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What is the reason for having moved edge midpoint face center point as a snapping target 

for the move point to point command?

 

 

Screen Shot 2017-01-20 at 7.46.46 AM.pngScreen Shot 2017-01-20 at 7.44.40 AM.png

 

 

Now you can only snap point to point by selecting a hard edge thus it does not work with the center point of a cylinder

or any center mid point of a face

 Screen Shot 2017-01-20 at 7.48.46 AM.png

Claas Kuhnen

Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit

Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University

Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design

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HughesTooling
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It was mentioned in the what's new thread.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/design-validate-document/january-19-2017-update-what-s-new/m-p/681850...

 

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PhilProcarioJr
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@cekuhnen

And was discussed here...I'm definitely not happy about this one...

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/design-validate-document/move-copy-bug/td-p/6818459



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O.Tan
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I'm quite curious, who suggested to parametrically remember the move tool values? Point to point is very useful and now its broken 😞

And out of all things that can be improved, why the move tool? It's probably not the most user friendly but they're many other areas that could use improvements like Joints - variable rate and chains/cables.



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cekuhnen
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@O.Tan I very often asked for move to be really parametric so it makes sense as a feature in the timeline

Claas Kuhnen

Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit

Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University

Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design

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cekuhnen
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@PhilProcarioJr

 

But a move into the right direction! Feels to me the next logical step would be combine move and align into one tool

 

currently align is what you use to do the old point to point

 

however it is great that move and rotate now are parametric and the same with point 2 point and align.

Claas Kuhnen

Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit

Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University

Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design

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JerryLJr
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This change is a huge bummer. It's near impossible to do some things without that as an option. I've found working on projects today to be unnecessarily difficult on account of this. This needs to come back asap. This makes running a business with Fusion 360 challenging.

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PhilProcarioJr
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@cekuhnen

The thing is I use tools in ways most people don't. People ask me all the time how did you do that.....my answer is I use tools in ways they were not originally meant to be used.

That's how I do the things I do. I find ways to accomplish tasks when the needed tools don't exist. People that think outside the box are the innovators and I am inspired by them every day. I wish more people would think outside the box. I wish people would let go of the current train of thought and move towards the future. The current standards tie everyone's hands and hold them back from ground breaking models. If people would just open their minds to new methods their work would make leaps and bounds changes forwards. To many people are closed minded....they just assume things can't be done....no matter what the tools anything can be done. Open your mind and solve the puzzle, the only people that can't do something are the people that say that can't be done. Nothing is impossible unless your only train of thought is that's not possible. 



Phil Procario Jr.
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cekuhnen
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@PhilProcarioJr

 

Yeah - I understand where you are coming from. But industry standard words are so nice to stick to - makes you feel you belong to a bigger group.

 

Since I started teaching I am constantly amazed about the ignorance you can find in this creative field. I assumed creative people are the most straight

forward visionary thinkers. But it seems specifically in Industrial Design (the so called problem solving field) new ideas are rather met with skepticism

and "No one uses or needs this".

 

 

Just this semester I said Bye Bye to Adobe and and we switched department wide to Affinity products. Costs less, modern code base, more logical workflow

and in general a set of design apps that work the way I want to work in 2017. Of course Graphic Design and 2D/3D Foundation need to teach the industrial

design standard. Ah do we teach software or do we teach concepts at a university. We are kinda amused because all students in my classes switched and now

Adobe sends them many "please come back" emails and after 3 weeks of Affinity they already dont want to but also see how both software packages are actually

doing the same - using the same tools just in different UIs and workflows.

 

Now think about the manufacturing industry and bigger companies. I found it amusing when 12 years ago I got funny looks when they said ah what subD no body

uses that. Ah well - odd that all the car companies do. And some companies have such established work pipelines that switching is just not that easy at all and in 

addition also contains a great deal of (financial) risks.

 

 

You and I and few others are I think pretty progressive and we can. Sadly the majority of the industry cannot.

 

So it makes sense that Fusion goes along their way of thinking and not ours.

Claas Kuhnen

Faculty Industrial Design – Wayne State Universit

Chair Interior Design – Wayne State University

Owner studioKuhnen – product : interface : design

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