Performance issues

Performance issues

jkelindberg
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Performance issues

jkelindberg
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Hi.

 

Fusion 360 suffers from huge performance issues.

I have CATIA v5 for my "day job", where I often work with complete assemblies of a whole train car consisting of more than 100,000 components, with very little effort. But trying to manipulate an assembly of ~100 components in Fusion 360 ON THE SAME SYSTEM can be enormously sluggish and frustrating even with the highest performance settings.

 

You guys really need to sort this out. Smiley Mad

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jeff_strater
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you are correct, Fusion is not yet as performant as established systems such as CATIA.  This is something that we are actively trying to address.  What we need is data.  Can you share one of those "100 component" designs, along with information about what operations are too slow (view rotation?  Sketch editing?  Solid editing?  File Open/Save?).  The more information we have the better we can "sort this out".  Thanks.


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TrippyLighting
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@jkelindberg wrote:

Hi.

 

Fusion 360 suffers from huge performance issues.

I have CATIA v5 for my "day job", where I often work with complete assemblies of a whole train car consisting of more than 100,000 components, with very little effort. But trying to manipulate an assembly of ~100 components in Fusion 360 ON THE SAME SYSTEM can be enormously sluggish and frustrating even with the highest performance settings.

 

You guys really need to sort this out. Smiley Mad


I wonder by what means it is sensible to compare Catia with Fusion 360 ?

Time for you to also sort out a few things 😕

 


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jkelindberg
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Yes, thanks Jeff for your reply.

 

I have not a 3D-model I am allowed to share at this point, but:

  • View changes (rotate, pan, zoom) is slow. And very slow if you happen to have the cursor in the 3D-view. I assume this is due to F360 calculating pre-selection highlighting?
  • Making patterns of features.
  • Manipulating section analysis.
  • Doing sketches in assembly.
  • "Recalculating the timeline", i.e. making a change "early" in the timeline and calculate consecutive features.
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jkelindberg
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I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean? What do I need to sort out?

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TrippyLighting
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While I certainly do agree that Fusion 360 needs to address performance I think comparing Fusion 360- to Catia is silly.

That sort of thing is often done by people that never had to pay the money for the tools they have the privilege to use and often don't even know the true cost of operating.

 

The TCO of Catia over a couple of years is worth a small new car. It isn't something you just download, install and you are good to go. It needs a good bit of maintenance and infrastructure to work properly and that also is quite costly.

 

It makes zero sense to compare these two software packages based purely on features such as performance.

 

You would not necessarily purchase Catia to design objects for 3D printing and neither would you get a Fusion 360 license to build a compete vehicle.


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jkelindberg
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Trippy.. I'm addressing an issue that is important to me, a paying customer of this software. The cost of the software is irrelevant and not everyone is using the software for 3D-printing knick-knacks. I am not demanding to match performance of CATIA V5, but my opinion is; instead of adding a new superficial features, fix the basics (to which I count performance) first. I know the developers are doing a fantastic job, but this issue has persisted since the start and updates have offered very little improvement.

 

Also... If your contribution to the discussion is only to offer sarcasm and ridicule then it is perhaps better you do that on your FaceTweets.

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l_wcrenshaw
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Jeff,

 

I have been working on a project using Fusion360.  I'm running a fully spec'd, new MBP and Bootcamp (F360 installed on both).  I've pretty much reached the outer limits of performance with Fusion360.  I see the same performance issues when I run F360 on a workstation with 16GB GPU and overclocked, water-cooled CPU.  The only thing that saved me was that you released the "derived component" feature so I could derive components and add engineering detail (draft, fillets, etc...) to prep them for injection mold tooling.  I also have some features that fail semi-consistently every rebuild which has turned into quite the time suck to repair (case# 14786406 <no satisfactory resolution IMO>).  If the model will stay internal to ADesk, I can share it.

 

-LewC

 

 

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TrippyLighting
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You could have used a more mature attitude to address that issue than comparing Fusion 360 with Catia.

That same applies to your absolutely juvenile remark on tweets and facebook.

 

As I've mentioned already I agree that Fusion 360 needs to address performance. I suffer from that as much as you do, perhaps even more and I am also a paying customer as well.

 

I also tend to contribute a lot on this forum, which you'd knew if you actually did the same. As such I can say that a lot of performance issues arise form incorrect workflows. 100 components usually is not a problem. 1000 that;'s a different story.


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jkelindberg
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I fail to see how my legitimate remarks on my concerns of poor performance is "immature", and why your having done a lot of posting on the forum gives you the right to mock people with less posts. Anyway, unless you have something constructive to say I think I will disregard your replies henceforth.

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jkelindberg
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I will try to make a 3D-model to illustrate my issues. Meanwhile, the point I was trying to make with my CATIA v5 comparison is that it seems not to be a problem of a lack of hardware performance, since other software outperform on the same hardware.

 

Sorry this was supposed to be a reply to @jeff_strater.

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