parameter change, shifts object on z axis

parameter change, shifts object on z axis

Nspag111
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parameter change, shifts object on z axis

Nspag111
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hello, have a problem.  see the STL file, shows what i am making.  the FUSION file is a combined file, that will make a small AND large screwdriver holder.  The HOLDER SLEEVE on the left is the issue.  If you change parameter D1, from 110 (the small holder measurement) to 190 (for the large holes), the HOLDER SLEEVE on the left shifts upward on the z-axis ????  It is supposed to be on ground level, tied to the left edge of the actual holder.  (I ultimately mirror that HOLDER SLEEVE to the right also).  any assistance apprecited.  thanks

 

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TrippyLighting
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The reason is likely that you created that sleeve from a 3D sketch that isn't fully constrained.

3D sketches should be reserved only for a few specialized situations. There is no need for 3D sketch in this simple design. 


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Nspag111
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thanks for reply.

i created the base of that sleeve on the x-y plane, then created an angled wall on the y-z axis,  so i could create the angle, and create the hole in the angle.    I dont have any idea how else i could create that;  i need the hole, at 5 degrees (then the screwdriver holder sits on teh pegboard, angled slightly forward making it easier to remove the screwdrivers).  when i did this as EITHER the large, or small (separately), it worked ok; i just wanted to combine these, to have one template that i could do either the small or large  from.  but the sleeve should be locked to that base plate, that is whre its origin is ...??

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johnsonshiue
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Hi! I guess the coordinate system exporting the mesh model isn't aligned to the coordinate system you use in Fusion Design (or vice versa). When you insert the mesh, you may align it to the origin by dragging the manipulator. In your case, you need to move the mesh up 2mm in Z and move it to the right 40mm in X.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
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TrippyLighting
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@johnsonshiue I believe the OP posted the .stl just for reference to show what he is making.

 

@Nspag111 there are quite a few features in the timeline I would not use the way yo do. As I have already mentioned, the sketch you used for the sleeve isn't properly constrained and "moves around" when you change that parameter die to ne being properly constrained. A 3D sketch is hard to properly constrain and isn't the right tool. The sleeve can be created from a single 2D sketch. You also are patterning bodies instead of features, which is really inefficient.

I'll post a design later that solves these issues.

 


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TrippyLighting
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Attached is the model shown in the screenshots. you'll notice the small number of features ,and there is only one solid body in this design, because I am patterning features.

Those cylindrical extrude features are set to join automatically once extruded. When you pattern that feature, all the patterned instances will also automatically combine.

 

The mirror feature for the sleeve works the same way. 

 

TrippyLighting_0-1759339600756.png

 

I also crated a number user parameters. Modifying those, you should be able to create the version with the smaller tubes.

The attached model is for the large tube version only.

I assume you are using the free subscription. If you'd use a paid subscription, you can save a set of user parameters in a Configuration and then can switch quickly between the two. 

 

TrippyLighting_1-1759339686210.png

 

 

 

 


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Nspag111
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to TrippyLighting,  and others -  WOW, thank you !!   I will use this model as a learning tool.

I don't know even 5% of what fusion can do.  but evn with that 5% knowledge, i've created tons of projects, for workshop, etc.  I've used similar modeling to my original model here, don't always get the coordinates constrained, but as i'm not doing models that need alterations  of parameters, i don't run in to (many) issues.  but this remodeling/parameter change attempt is a learning curve.

again, i'll experiment with this, because it can help me in other models !

again, many thanks !

nick

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Nspag111
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working on this,  i thought i'd post photo's of real-time application of this,  in our homeowner association maintenance room.    first photo, top left, an earlier model, i made the horizontal plates, 2 of them, then made separate side pieces, but that was not strong enough.  i then merged the side piece to a better plate.  ALSO, not shown well in design, i had a CROSS PIECE, and what i do with that is copy it x 2, to put as cross brace to the plate, so the plate does not bow (plate actually bowed, when no cross piece, when loaded with 24 flat head screwdrivers).

anyway, if anyone needs such a holder, feel free to use this,  it works well.

 

20251002_pegboard-screwdriver-holders-mine- (1).jpg

20251002_pegboard-screwdriver-holders-mine- (2).jpg

20251002_pegboard-screwdriver-holders-mine- (3).jpg

   

 

ALSO, see photo 2, i have an orange INSERT to narrow the large hole, in case a smaller screwdriver is to be placed in this holder

 

photo 3 shows the smaller-plate screwdriver holder, for the specialized small screwdrivers

 

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TrippyLighting
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Nice! Thanks for sharing!


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