Panel fit 250804

[pittsallen]

Hello Fusion forum,

In post
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/construct-plane-perpendicular-to-plan... 

a panel was drafted and beveled to fit together in a hexagon shape.

Now working on fitting the panels together to prove
that the bevels fit together properly and to provide a 
basis for drafting the panel crown.


Worked for some time using Move and Align to fit the panels together.. Move allows a point on a panel to be moved to another point but does not allow two points to be moved simultaneously or consecutively.  It seems that Move is a machete where a scalpel is required.
Align brings two panels together but at weird angles. Tried a half Aligns using different faces 
but no luck.


Was at the point of throwing in the towel and seeing if help could be found on the forum
when I tried Joint.

Joint worked.
So five more panels were created and joined.

Looks like the panels overlap a bit when the sixth panel is jointed.
The only solution that analysis provides is to go back to the bevel sketch and make the bevel
angles more obtuse as shown here


Is there another solution that comes to mind?

Thanks.

Allen

[jhackney1972]

Your Joints do not fit well together.  Originally you were going to use a simple bevel, on each side of the joint, do you now require this double stepped cut at each joint? 

[kacper.suchomski]

Hi

The wedges are poorly designed.

This needs to be calculated mathematically using trigonometry. It's not intuitive.

First, you need to determine the technology – how you will manufacture this element; whether you can afford inclined surfaces, etc. (Remember that straight surfaces won't align with inclined components, but inclined surfaces will be more difficult to manufacture).

First mistake:

The center of the blue line (yellow arrow) should be in the center of the red line (red arrow).

Another point:

The direction of the indicated red line must be drawn as the diagonal of a hexagon. But it can't be just any hexagon.
Its position must be drawn geometrically—it must be tilted relative to the component precisely to reflect the "floor" and "ceiling" of the curtain rod.

You have to rely on math; not intuition.

Good luck

[davebYYPCU]

Examine my file in the previous thread.  
Joint before a circular pattern. Move or Align will not lock in place.

I used a mitre cut for simplicity, change it to a stepped cut if you wish. Needs a male female set up, too complicated for me on a demo.

@kacper.suchomski @All that geometry was provided, as mentioned.

Might help….

[John_Wright]

I am putting this as politely as I can, with no offence indended.

How the heck are most of your sketches still not fully defined after all of the help you have had on here?

"You are  building a house on a foundation of quicksand".

[jhackney1972 · Accepted solution]

The type of offset joint you are using will always give you a uneven look.  I recommend a mitered joint with a key block.  I have attached your assembly with these joints.  I left out the separate key block which is 3 x 5 mm in size of two different lengths.

[pittsallen]

Hello jhackney, davebYYPCu and the Fusion form,

Shout out to Mr. Hackney for an excellent solution.

My math skills are not sufficient to solve the compound miter
with offset faces deductively.
For some hours an empirical resolution has been sought.
After several attempts resulting in gaps and overlaps
it was decided that although offset miter faces would
result in a much better construction, the offset
faces should be abandoned for twelve flat faces on 
the top and twelve flat faces on the bottom.

A design using flat miters was nearing completion
when jhackney's solution was received. The key
block resolution combines the simplified miter
with a means of providing a solid connection
while supergluing the panels.

With the panels fit together the design of
chandelier crown is underway.

Thanks.

Allen