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Organizing Assemblies & Components within Browser List

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Message 1 of 25
Anonymous
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Organizing Assemblies & Components within Browser List

Anonymous
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As my design develops, how do I simple move assemblies or components up and down within the browser list??

Should be simple but can't figure this one out!

Uughh!

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Organizing Assemblies & Components within Browser List

As my design develops, how do I simple move assemblies or components up and down within the browser list??

Should be simple but can't figure this one out!

Uughh!

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Message 2 of 25
TannerReid
in reply to: Anonymous

TannerReid
Alumni
Alumni

Hi, rsteele,

 

Clicking and dragging bodies and sketches should allow you to rearrange them in their folders.  Dragging into another folder (like a different component) should move that entity into that component (for instance, if you clicked-and-dragged a body from a body folder and moved it over the component you want to place it into, it should automatically show up in the bodies folder of that component).  Sometimes it won't allow you to do this if other things are dependent on that entity staying where it is.

Dragging component A onto component B will nest Component A into Component B, making component B a component group (you'll see the icon change).

Is this what you were looking for?  If it doesn't work, would you mind sharing in a little more detail?  I'm happy to work it out with you.

 

Thanks for reaching out!
Tanner


Tanner Reid

Product Design Engineer

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Hi, rsteele,

 

Clicking and dragging bodies and sketches should allow you to rearrange them in their folders.  Dragging into another folder (like a different component) should move that entity into that component (for instance, if you clicked-and-dragged a body from a body folder and moved it over the component you want to place it into, it should automatically show up in the bodies folder of that component).  Sometimes it won't allow you to do this if other things are dependent on that entity staying where it is.

Dragging component A onto component B will nest Component A into Component B, making component B a component group (you'll see the icon change).

Is this what you were looking for?  If it doesn't work, would you mind sharing in a little more detail?  I'm happy to work it out with you.

 

Thanks for reaching out!
Tanner


Tanner Reid

Product Design Engineer

Message 3 of 25
Anonymous
in reply to: TannerReid

Anonymous
Not applicable

Hi Tanner,

Thx for your response!

You did clear some items up, but I still have one more question.

Say I have a master assembly with three sub-assemblies and 3 components within it. I simply want to change one or two of there positions in the list within the browser. I'm not trying to put any data into one of the other componetns or sub-assemblies. I just simply want to move the order of everything either alphabetically or relating to how the assembly might go together or for what ever the varying reasons might be. Make sense?

Thx!

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Hi Tanner,

Thx for your response!

You did clear some items up, but I still have one more question.

Say I have a master assembly with three sub-assemblies and 3 components within it. I simply want to change one or two of there positions in the list within the browser. I'm not trying to put any data into one of the other componetns or sub-assemblies. I just simply want to move the order of everything either alphabetically or relating to how the assembly might go together or for what ever the varying reasons might be. Make sense?

Thx!

Message 4 of 25
TannerReid
in reply to: Anonymous

TannerReid
Alumni
Alumni
Glad it helped a bit! I would have thought that click-and-dragging would work for re-ordering components as well, but it doesn't seem to be. I'm checking with the product team now to see if we can find you an answer - sit tight!

Thanks,
Tanner

Tanner Reid

Product Design Engineer

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Glad it helped a bit! I would have thought that click-and-dragging would work for re-ordering components as well, but it doesn't seem to be. I'm checking with the product team now to see if we can find you an answer - sit tight!

Thanks,
Tanner

Tanner Reid

Product Design Engineer

Message 5 of 25
O.Tan
in reply to: Anonymous

O.Tan
Advisor
Advisor
Hmm, I'm guessing you're using history based?


Omar Tan
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Hmm, I'm guessing you're using history based?


Omar Tan
Malaysia
Mac Pro (Late 2013) | 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5 | 12GB 1.8 GHz DDR3 ECC | Dual 2GB AMD FirePro D300
MacBook Pro 15" (Late 2016) | 2.6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 | 16GB 2.1 GHz LPDDR3 | 4GB AMD RadeonPro 460
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Message 6 of 25
TannerReid
in reply to: O.Tan

TannerReid
Alumni
Alumni

So it looks like you should be able to click-and-drag components in the browser to re-order them.  However, the browser is generated based on the timeline, meaning you might be limited in what you can move and where.  If it's not letting drag them into another order, it's because the timeline requires them stay put in order to honor some dependencies.

Does that make sense?  Let me know if you have further questions!

Thanks,
Tanenr


Tanner Reid

Product Design Engineer

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So it looks like you should be able to click-and-drag components in the browser to re-order them.  However, the browser is generated based on the timeline, meaning you might be limited in what you can move and where.  If it's not letting drag them into another order, it's because the timeline requires them stay put in order to honor some dependencies.

Does that make sense?  Let me know if you have further questions!

Thanks,
Tanenr


Tanner Reid

Product Design Engineer

Message 7 of 25
Anonymous
in reply to: TannerReid

Anonymous
Not applicable

Hello, I am wondering if this missing functionality of adding a history element of "browser display element moved for organization purposes" that allows the browser to simply be updated is on the list of things to do?

 

Even if there is no plan on adding this functionality any time soon, I believe it would be extremely helpful for a message to be displayed with the following message: "Components cannot be rearranged while Timeline is active." 

 

I can't imagine a single user who hasn't ran into this issue while learning the software. 

 

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Hello, I am wondering if this missing functionality of adding a history element of "browser display element moved for organization purposes" that allows the browser to simply be updated is on the list of things to do?

 

Even if there is no plan on adding this functionality any time soon, I believe it would be extremely helpful for a message to be displayed with the following message: "Components cannot be rearranged while Timeline is active." 

 

I can't imagine a single user who hasn't ran into this issue while learning the software. 

 

Message 8 of 25
LogicSpeaks
in reply to: TannerReid

LogicSpeaks
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Hi,

 

So I'm puzzled as to why dragging and dropping the components doesn't move them around.  I understand there are things that are tied to the time-line but why would the "name" of the component be tied to the exact order within the browser list.  It is just a list which shows you the names of the components, and if the components are within the component group, it shouldn't matter where the component is in the order.

 

For example:

 

I have components within a group:

A:

B:

😧

C:

 

Why can't I move "C:" component above "D:" ?  

 

Lastly, how do you organize these components if you find that in the middle of the project you "mis-ordered" them?  In past updates it seemed like dragging and dropping worked - something must have changed?

 

Thanks in advance for anyone's, and everyone's help!

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Hi,

 

So I'm puzzled as to why dragging and dropping the components doesn't move them around.  I understand there are things that are tied to the time-line but why would the "name" of the component be tied to the exact order within the browser list.  It is just a list which shows you the names of the components, and if the components are within the component group, it shouldn't matter where the component is in the order.

 

For example:

 

I have components within a group:

A:

B:

😧

C:

 

Why can't I move "C:" component above "D:" ?  

 

Lastly, how do you organize these components if you find that in the middle of the project you "mis-ordered" them?  In past updates it seemed like dragging and dropping worked - something must have changed?

 

Thanks in advance for anyone's, and everyone's help!

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Message 9 of 25

TrippyLighting
Consultant
Consultant

Components are shown in the browser in the order they were created in the timeline. Reordering them is a current limitation.

If you want to restructure an assembly, e.g. Move a component into another one, make sure your timeline marker is rolled all the way to the end/right of the timeline.


EESignature

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Components are shown in the browser in the order they were created in the timeline. Reordering them is a current limitation.

If you want to restructure an assembly, e.g. Move a component into another one, make sure your timeline marker is rolled all the way to the end/right of the timeline.


EESignature

Message 10 of 25

LogicSpeaks
Enthusiast
Enthusiast

TrippyLighting, 

 

Thanks for the response:  I have the timeline all the way to the right (end of the timeline or most current) and I can't drag any component from one group to another within the browser list.  Am I missing something? The only thing I've found that I can move around is bodies within components in any order I want.

 

 

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TrippyLighting, 

 

Thanks for the response:  I have the timeline all the way to the right (end of the timeline or most current) and I can't drag any component from one group to another within the browser list.  Am I missing something? The only thing I've found that I can move around is bodies within components in any order I want.

 

 

Message 11 of 25

tyler_henderson
Community Manager
Community Manager

Are all of your components local?  Meaning, they are not external reference components?

Tyler Henderson
Principal User Experience Designer

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Are all of your components local?  Meaning, they are not external reference components?

Tyler Henderson
Principal User Experience Designer

Message 12 of 25
larryreader
in reply to: Anonymous

larryreader
Participant
Participant

Surprising that even with the timeline turned off (so I could move some sketches into different components that had timeline dependencies) still with the timeline off I can not put my components into a logical order

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Surprising that even with the timeline turned off (so I could move some sketches into different components that had timeline dependencies) still with the timeline off I can not put my components into a logical order

Message 13 of 25

tyler_henderson
Community Manager
Community Manager

I have noticed this also in a design with the timeline turned Off.  I was not able to drag components within the browser.  So I closed the design and re-opened it, then all of a sudden I could drag the components in the browser.  So there is something a little quirky there.  Try closing and re-opening or even restarting Fusion.

Tyler Henderson
Principal User Experience Designer

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I have noticed this also in a design with the timeline turned Off.  I was not able to drag components within the browser.  So I closed the design and re-opened it, then all of a sudden I could drag the components in the browser.  So there is something a little quirky there.  Try closing and re-opening or even restarting Fusion.

Tyler Henderson
Principal User Experience Designer

Message 14 of 25

larryreader
Participant
Participant

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Message 15 of 25

larryreader
Participant
Participant

Yes, thanks! That worked. Much more organized now. So to re-order 1) Turn off History 2) Restart Fusion.

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Yes, thanks! That worked. Much more organized now. So to re-order 1) Turn off History 2) Restart Fusion.

Message 16 of 25
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Anonymous
Not applicable

The internal stack of changes/history objects need to be decoupled from order of the components in the browser view.  I understand from an implementation standpoint, why it is like this, but it doesn't make sense for users that they cannot adjust the order.  

 

This is a basic usability function that causes a lot of confusion, especially as designs get more complex.  

 

Adding insult to injury, Currently the browser shows visual queues that the order WILL be changed by a drag+drop action.  

 

I am kinda surprised that QA testers have not picked up on this one yet...

 

Example:

 

You create a component called,... "BoxOfNothing"

 

Then you create another component called, "WoodenNickel"

 

Finally you realize that you need to carry the BoxOfNothing so you create  a"BoxOfNothingHandle" 

 

...and you're screwed because the handle will be misplaced, away from you box forever.   End of story.

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The internal stack of changes/history objects need to be decoupled from order of the components in the browser view.  I understand from an implementation standpoint, why it is like this, but it doesn't make sense for users that they cannot adjust the order.  

 

This is a basic usability function that causes a lot of confusion, especially as designs get more complex.  

 

Adding insult to injury, Currently the browser shows visual queues that the order WILL be changed by a drag+drop action.  

 

I am kinda surprised that QA testers have not picked up on this one yet...

 

Example:

 

You create a component called,... "BoxOfNothing"

 

Then you create another component called, "WoodenNickel"

 

Finally you realize that you need to carry the BoxOfNothing so you create  a"BoxOfNothingHandle" 

 

...and you're screwed because the handle will be misplaced, away from you box forever.   End of story.

Message 17 of 25
docara
in reply to: O.Tan

docara
Collaborator
Collaborator

O.Tan

 

I have noticed you make a lot of unhelpful comments in reply to peoples posts across the forum. Please stop it!

 

A comment like "Hmm I'm guessing you are using history based?" does nothing to help the OP problem does it. 

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O.Tan

 

I have noticed you make a lot of unhelpful comments in reply to peoples posts across the forum. Please stop it!

 

A comment like "Hmm I'm guessing you are using history based?" does nothing to help the OP problem does it. 

Message 18 of 25
TrippyLighting
in reply to: Anonymous

TrippyLighting
Consultant
Consultant

You could create another component called BoxAssembly and drag BoxOfNothing and BoxOfNothingHandle into that assembly to "collect" both of these components in one place.

However, that is only possible with the timeline marker rolled all the way to the end.


EESignature

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You could create another component called BoxAssembly and drag BoxOfNothing and BoxOfNothingHandle into that assembly to "collect" both of these components in one place.

However, that is only possible with the timeline marker rolled all the way to the end.


EESignature

Message 19 of 25
O.Tan
in reply to: Anonymous

O.Tan
Advisor
Advisor
Docara,

Erm, the thing is the OP didn’t mention if he’s using timeline or direct so what’s wrong with asking him to clarify. Cause reorganising assembly with TL isn’t that straightforward cause of dependencies whereas in DM, there’s a certain way of doing it.


Omar Tan
Malaysia
Mac Pro (Late 2013) | 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5 | 12GB 1.8 GHz DDR3 ECC | Dual 2GB AMD FirePro D300
MacBook Pro 15" (Late 2016) | 2.6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 | 16GB 2.1 GHz LPDDR3 | 4GB AMD RadeonPro 460
macOS Sierra, Windows 10

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Docara,

Erm, the thing is the OP didn’t mention if he’s using timeline or direct so what’s wrong with asking him to clarify. Cause reorganising assembly with TL isn’t that straightforward cause of dependencies whereas in DM, there’s a certain way of doing it.


Omar Tan
Malaysia
Mac Pro (Late 2013) | 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5 | 12GB 1.8 GHz DDR3 ECC | Dual 2GB AMD FirePro D300
MacBook Pro 15" (Late 2016) | 2.6 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 | 16GB 2.1 GHz LPDDR3 | 4GB AMD RadeonPro 460
macOS Sierra, Windows 10

Message 20 of 25
TrippyLighting
in reply to: O.Tan

TrippyLighting
Consultant
Consultant

Agreed! Reorganizing assemblies in DM is a breeze. Dead simple!


EESignature

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Agreed! Reorganizing assemblies in DM is a breeze. Dead simple!


EESignature

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