Need some help modifying my part

Need some help modifying my part

Anonymous
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Need some help modifying my part

Anonymous
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Hello, I need some help please. I imported a model of a center cap that I created previously in TinkerCad, it was imported to F360 as a .obj file under the mesh option. I have also tried .stl under the mesh option. I cannot seem to select any part of the design to modify it.

 

I need to bring the face of the 5 tabs out and create a fillet but cannot do anything with it. 

 

Can someone help please?

I would insert a picture in this but this thing will not let me upload one, so I added one as an attachment. 

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Message 2 of 25

m_baseeruddin
Explorer
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Hello Brother! 

 

To edit the object you have to make it a solid body. You can't directly Edit the meshed body. To make it solid you have to go to bodies and right-click the body that you want to edit in the browser and then click mesh to Brep. 

 

Hope this helps 

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TheCADWhisperer
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Can you File>Export your *.f3d file to your local drive and then Attach it here to a Reply?

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jeff_strater
Community Manager
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@m_baseeruddin - that is not true.  You can directly edit a mesh body.  There is an entire workspace for doing precisely that.  You cannot use the Solid or Surface tools to edit a mesh without first converting or reverse-engineering the mesh, but there are tools for doing some operations on a mesh.

 

Also, directly converting a mesh to a solid, while occasionally useful, results in a pretty low-quality solid result that can also result in poor performance.  In general, if you want to do solid operations, I would use the mesh as a starting point and create native geometry.  There are tools that you can use for that - Create Mesh Section/Fit Curves To Mesh Section, etc.

 


Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
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m_baseeruddin
Explorer
Explorer

Thanks for telling me that. I know that there is a mesh workspace, but don't know that it can go up to this point.  That means I was doing this wrong all the time. Really appreciate your reply. And please let me know if there is any material available to learn that.

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chrisplyler
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Once you learn the basics of Fusion, you will realize that modeling such a simple part natively beats importing and modifying meshes hands down.

 

I modeled a similar item with just a single sketch, a handful of revolve operations, and a pattern. I didn't think through the sketch very well, resulting in some problems with flexing some of the dimensions, but that can be sorted out easily enough. And of course the details of my shapes are not exactly as in your picture, because I just took a brief glance and then started sketching without going back to look again, but that can be easily fixed also.

 

If you set it up right, you can flex whatever dimensions you want.

 

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/003654b8-bad3-46c8-97b2-0a3ce0a479dd

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Anonymous
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I will give that a try. Thank you!

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Anonymous
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File is attached. Thanks for looking at it!

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Anonymous
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Dang! You make it look so easy! I hope to be that skilled some day. How long did it take for you to to get to this point?

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Anonymous
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Thanks for the reply but I don't see Mesh to Brep option and apparently this is not going to be a viable option. I am probably going to have to just start from scratch. 😞

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Anonymous
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Thank you for the insight. I apparently have a lot of learning to do... Back to the drawing board! 

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Message 12 of 25

Anonymous
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This is really saddening because it seems I am going to have to redo the whole thing? All I want to do is bring out the locking part of the each tab an 1/8". I don't understand why yet, but I guess I have a lot to learn.

 

Thanks to you all for your input.

 

If there are specific tutorials that would help me get this created as needed, are there certain search terms I should look for?

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TheCADWhisperer
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@Anonymous wrote:

File is attached. Thanks for looking at it!


@Anonymous 

What is your intended Units and Ø265 inches?

TheCADWhisperer_0-1610117509666.png

 

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TrippyLighting
Consultant
Consultant

I don't see the model attached to any post. Could you do that ?


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chrisplyler
Mentor
Mentor

@Anonymous wrote:

Dang! You make it look so easy! I hope to be that skilled some day. How long did it take for you to to get to this point?


 

Oh gosh... I've probably got about 200 hours worth screwing around in Fusion spread over almost three years. But to reach the level I demonstrated in that video should only take a beginner ten or fifteen hours I would think, with the first several spent just exploring Fusion's interface to learn what all tools are available, looking up beginner training videos, starting to practice simple beginner challenges, learning how to sketch properly to achieve the desired result, etc.

 

Your center cap is a useful example. I looked at the basic shapes, and decided, before I even began modeling, that I could do the whole thing with the Solid>Create>Revolve tool (with the understanding that the support webs would be tapered towards the center...if that isn't acceptable then I would have to add in another sketch and a Solid>Create>Extrude operation also). Then I decided that since it could all be Revolved, I could define all the shapes, and their relationships, in a single sketch...then when I got to Revolving stuff I could just set the angles appropriately in order to define the positions. I figured out that since I would end up with a pattern of 5, I would use a 72-degree total, dividing that into 30-degree tab, 6-degree space, 30-degree guide, and another 6-degree space...totaling that 72-degree range. I figured that would pattern five times around and result in evenly spaced gaps for everything. All this thinking/planning took about a minute, because it's a pretty easy little project, and all happened before I even opened Fusion up.

 

In my video I didn't show the actual sketching. That took me the longest, because I had to keep pausing and thinking about your picture and how each bit was related to each other bit. You can see that I fudged somewhat from your actual shape, just because I didn't pay that close attention that I would have if it were actually my own project. And obviously I didn't put much thought into how things might need to fled, which is why when I go back and try to flex some dimensions Fusion gives me errors. More forethought in that area would have prevented those errors and given proper flex results. Anyways...a few of those beginner hours should definitely be spend learning good sketching habits. Things like fully constraining, building in the flexing capability that's important, using symmetry around the Origin (you may have noticed I only sketched half of the section view...), etc.

 

The rest is just the mental ability to look at a complex shape and let your mind understand it in the context of modeling. This just comes with a little experience I think. I had many AHA moments on this forum when I would read another user's problem and watch a more experienced guy come in and show the easy way, and then I too would start seeing the easy way when I looked at my own project puzzles.

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TrippyLighting
Consultant
Consultant

@chrisplyler wrote:

The rest is just the mental ability to look at a complex shape and let your mind understand it in the context of modeling. This just comes with a little experience I think. .


Absolutely does that come with experience! This is one of most important parts of CAD and 3D modeling. The ability to look at (or imagine) geometry and break in down into its simpler constituent parts and relate it to the modeling tools available in a given software.

 


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Anonymous
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Intended units are in inches and I don't understand what you mean by 0265 inches? Sorry for the late reply, I just got home from work..

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Anonymous
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I attached it to another reply but I attached to yours as well... Thanks

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TheCADWhisperer
Consultant
Consultant

@Anonymous wrote:

...what you mean by 0265 inches?


The diameter of the part you attached is 265 inches. (Ø=diameter in CAD)

I suspect that you intended 165mm or 16.5mm.

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Anonymous
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I don't know why the scaling would have changed like that but the diameter is supposed to be 6 1/2", lol

 

The circumference of the locking part of the tabs should be preferably 5 7/8". 

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