Missing Reference Body - but how do you fix it?

Missing Reference Body - but how do you fix it?

Drewpan
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Missing Reference Body - but how do you fix it?

Drewpan
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Hi Guys,

 

Proprietary design so I cannot share unfortunately.

 

I always fix my yellows in the timeline when they happen so I must have been really tired when I let this one slip.

I know what the parts are that are cached but in this case I cannot work out how to fix this situation. It normally

gives the opportunity to edit the operation but in this case it does not. All I need to do is set these parts as the

missing pieces. Doing a Compute All does not fix this. Any ideas?

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And yes, I have a couple of moves I tried to avoid at all costs but failed. I have to do at least two more of these when

this one is finished and I will definitely be using different workflow from what I learned about this one. I will not be

able to scale either as they will be set measurements.

 

Cheers

 

Andrew

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TimelesslyTiredYouth
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Hi @Drewpan 

Very vague without seeing the document, I've got like 4 ideas in my head but

The most likely fix is to manually re-link or redefine the missing geometry since yellow warnings usually mean a reference has been altered or deleted. Check the timeline or browser to find what’s missing, and try editing the operation to reselect the correct geometry. If the software doesn’t let you edit it, you may need to recreate the missing parts and update the references. "Compute All" won’t help here because it only resolves cache issues, not broken links. As a last resort, you might need to delete the operation and redo it with the right references.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me n my head that could work, apolagies if i'm wrong but can't think of much without examining the components/ assemblies for issues

 

Kind regards

Ricky

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HughesTooling
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Copy/Cut Paste, is gotcha waiting in your timeline to wreck your designs!  Complained about it for years but don't think it'll ever get fixed.

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Never use copy, alway use Boundary Fill, Boundary Fill will allow you to reselect lost references.

 

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TrippyLighting
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This is a perfectly reasonable approach, and one would think the software supports editing the culprit, but as @HughesTooling has explained, the copy/paste operation isn't editable. It is a complete disgrace that this many years into the development and this many years since we have complained about this issue it still isn't fixed.


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TimelesslyTiredYouth
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Then again there is a lot of stuff they haven't added to fusion 360 and the autodesk community, 
think about how parametric history gets frozen with imported or derive files ( not 100% sure with derive files) which means you cant adjust the features of these dimensions in the timeline. Personally stuff like this just breaks my workflow as I heavily rely on the fact that fusion 360 is parametric. A personal experience that I had recently was that i couldn't edit holes or fillet in a step file i imported and it required a ridiculous amount of extra steps to adjust the geometry so i can perform simple task like fillet
and with autodesk forumwith the screen scrolling down whenever i blimen try to quote anything and delete with it , I've lately just given up do to how annoying it is

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TrippyLighting
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@TimelesslyTiredYouth wrote:

 

think about how parametric history gets frozen with imported or derive files ( not 100% sure with derive files) which means you cant adjust the features of these dimensions in the timeline. 


Please share more details in a separate thread and provide an example model exhibiting that behavior.

 


@TimelesslyTiredYouth wrote:

...A personal experience that I had recently was that i couldn't edit holes or fillet in a step file i imported and it required a ridiculous amount of extra steps to adjust the geometry so i can perform simple task like fillet


STEP files do not contain timelines or feature trees, and they cannot be recreated from the geometry in STEP files. STEP files mostly contain "dumb" geometry. I don't know a single CAD system that can read the parametric design history of another CAD system.


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TimelesslyTiredYouth
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"dumb" geometry


What do you mean when you say "dumb geometry?

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TrippyLighting
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@TimelesslyTiredYouth wrote:

"dumb" geometry


What do you mean when you say "dumb geometry?


There are no timelines or feature-tree features associated with that geometry. STEP files are not parametric.


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TimelesslyTiredYouth
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I will open the file and check to see whether it was a STEP file tmrw once my fusion decides to finally work and clarify what I was trying to say

 

Kind regards Ricky

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TimelesslyTiredYouth
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A touch off topic but I saw you quote a lot, does your screen scroll down when you quote and delete something or is that something on my side

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Drewpan
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Hi,

 

Trust me - the move copy I did do was a last resort. I am fully aware of the problems it can cause. I typically avoid

using it at all costs. As I suggested, I must have been really tired when I did this. I have been working on it late.

 

I just cannot work out how to fix it. There seems to be nothing associated with the error that is editable to re-connect

the components. Editing the Body to Component immediately after does not do anything, the error is those bodies

before I convert them.

 

Cheers

 

Andrew

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davebYYPCU
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Problem for years - do not use Copy Paste Bodies.

You can't fix it, so avoid it like the plague.

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Drewpan
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Hi,

 

As long as I don't have to re-start this one. I will not be designing the next couple the same way for sure.

 

Cheers

 

Andrew

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