Imported Mesh Models

[Anonymous]

I am finding the 10,000 facet limitation to be rather restricting. We can simplify the model and remove facets but the model becomes a 3D pixelation.

Is there a way we can bring the model in and then divide along a plane?  So maybe bring in a 10,000 plus model but divide it into four sections to convert to solid.

Allan Steinkuhl

[PhilProcarioJr]

@Anonymous

The 10k limit is not the problem, it just adds a few simple extra steps. The problem is in the T-Spline tools because you can't edit T-Splines with that many faces. All your looking to do is conversion and the 10k limit is not stopping you from doing that. You just don't know how to work around the 10k limit.

[Anonymous]

Phil

I am not interested in editing the mesh beyond subsetting it to reflect the fixed z-perspective of the rendering tool I am using.

I am interested in generating a CAM toolpath from it in as direct a manner as possible with the highest acheiveable fidelity to the original artifact it was generated from.

The additional steps you are proposing add no value for me in my current workflow: they are a direct overhead adding significant complexity and effort.

IMO manual effort of this type is the sort of thing that should be automated, as if I undertake the effort there will be no value added in the process.

so I think we disagree, because we are trying to accomplish different things. 

[PhilProcarioJr]

@Anonymous

On the contrary what I said has direct value to your exact problem. I have imported and converted a 412,000 polygon mesh in Fusion and I have posted proof of it here on the boards. What I said had nothing to do with mesh editing...you just assumed it did... and rest assured you could machine that 412,000 polygon object when I was done. You seem to have made up your mind though so I will leave you to your current workflow.

Cheers

[Anonymous]

I have had the opportunity to hand modify a mesh to cut on a CNC Router.
Anything the Fusion people will release will be SIGNIFICANTLY better than my current workflow.
My only complaint is the wait. I have a grandson's birthday coming up in November.  I need to have my mesh togetherto complete his rocking horse.
Allan Steinkuhl

[Anonymous]

so Phil

 - this is not about you it is about Fusion

 - we all know how capable you are and how well your techniques work

 - the question is how we can make your techniques and any other relevant techniques available to a wider audience of peopple with less complexity and effort?

when I looked at your posts and descriptions of how you do what you do it struck me as a lot of time consuming and repetitive manual labour.

This may make sense to you, as an expert in 'how things can be done with the current tools' but I do not accept this is how it should or could be.

you may disagree, and that is fine, but I wonder if there is NO way to automate some or all of that effort? Is that not what software and machines are for?

if the workflow is truly effective, and it seems to be based on your success, can we not make at least a wizard or directed execution that walks an inexpert user through it, suggests default implementations, has an 'auto' mode?

if another implementation of the the workflow entails slicing the models into <10k face segments, converting them, and rejoining them, why can't that be done as a macro?

why do I have to do that, or any if this, by hand?

I'm glad you have a successful workflow and are happy with it. 

I do not have a successful workflow, I am not happy with it, and in your example I see something that could be improved in its implementation. 

This is not a criticism of you, it is a questioning of why things are the way they are and whether through re-imagining we can make incremental improvements which over time significantly reduce our effort and increase our quality.

so question back to @colin.smith: 

any chance, if the 10k limit is going to be deferred in elimination for a while, if we can get some macros or wizards to at least automate the workarounds?

[PhilProcarioJr]

@Anonymous

I understand what your saying, but you should also understand the one thing that lies down that road...as soon as it's as easy as click this button and your done, there will be no money to be made because everyone will be able to do the same. The second point I would like to make is I have been waiting for tools like you ask for for 20 years and no software company has done it yet and I for one am not going to wait another 20 to see if they ever do. I want new tools to help workflow...I will definitely say that, but the age old saying "Nothing worth having comes easy" is something I live by.

If you really believe what you said..."- we all know how capable you are and how well your techniques work"...

Then believe me when I say this, no auto tool is ever going to do what you are asking for...I know this for a fact because I know why auto tools currently fail.....Your never going to get CAD accuracy from auto tools....software will never replace the human mind...at least not in my lifetime.

You can wait for tools that may never come tomorrow or you can learn new things and get something done today...

Just my 2 cents

[Anonymous]

I've been offline for a week but wanted to write you a note and say that was a very good response.
I am less cynical than you perhaps about what will be possible in the future,
but I do indeed hear you when you say the wait has been long....