How make a surfboard fin using loft?

How make a surfboard fin using loft?

Anonymous
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How make a surfboard fin using loft?

Anonymous
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Hi, I've only been using Fusion for the past two months but I'm trying to make a surfboard fin with a specific aerofoil for a school project. I'm just really struggling to loft the aerofoil into the correct shape. Is there any chance someone could show me how to do it? I've trawlled the web for the past week but I can't find any info on how to do it properly (that I can understand at least). Any help would be massively appreciated! 

 

Cheers,

Harry

 

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TheCADWhisperer
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File>Export and the Attach the *.f3d file of your attempt here.

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jeff_strater
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@Anonymous, here are a couple of posts that discuss modeling a surfboard fin, some good info in them:

 


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Anonymous
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here's my embarrassing attempt, it's just a couple of lines. 

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TheCADWhisperer
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I would start by scaling the canvas image to correct size.

I would not scale the sketches.

 

What I normally do.

1. Create sketch rectangle "bounding box" to desired dimension sizes.

2. Bring in the image and scale to fit the bounding box.

3. Create your geometry sketches with one sketch connected to another (Project Geometry).

 

These steps should take you about 5 minutes to re-create and then post back your new *.f3d file for next steps.

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Anonymous
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If anyone fancies making a screencast or instructions on how to do this properly from scratch I'll happily pay for it. I think i'm too much of a novice to work this out.

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davebYYPCU
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Here is one way to do it, (without the mounting portion)

 

From your file, took full size measurements before

Deleting the two scale features, (they are a pain)

Calibrated the canvass to full size.

Edited the canvass to be placed on the origin. (Top front of the mount)

Traced the fin profile with a spline front and back.  Sketch 1

After some calculations, developed the base fin airfoil, with a top and (mirrored) bottom 4 point spline, with constraints to the handles. Sketch 2

Sweep with Guide Rail, the Airfoil, on the Trailing Edge as the Path, and Leading Edge as Guide Rail.  Distance at 0.999, cause full length and your leading edge cause a fail.

 

After that constructed the sketches to patch Loft the tip section, in half to allow a successful Loft, mirrored.

Boundary Fill the Tip as a Join to the main fin.  There is a seam, but not very noticeable, and should buff out.SBFin.PNG

 

Happy to help further if needed, 

 

 

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Thank you so much, that's really helped! Would you mind walking me through the sketches and loft you did for the tip?

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davebYYPCU
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You should have my file, after the sweep, Stepping up the timeline, 

 

I created the tip airfoil, by projecting the end of the sweep into a sketch on that face and the LE Curve point. .  Sketch 3 purple curves.

 

Sketch 4, is on a Plane on a Path, about the thickest position on the airfoil.  Project Intersect the Leading Edge curve, and the Sweep Body, then a 2 point spline from top of the airfoil to the tip curve.  Vertical and coincident constraints on the tangent handles.

 

Sketch 5 is a short line connecting the end of the Trailing Edge to the end of the airfoil.

 

The Tip Patch Loft is from the Leading Edge point in Sketch 3, the Sketch 4 curve, and the sketch 5 line., with the Leading Edge curve, and the top curve of the airfoil  as the Rails. 

 

It had to be done in Patch cause the Sketch 5, is a line and not a profile, whereas Solid Lofts needs profiles and or single Points.

 

That Loft was then mirrored.

 

Boundary Fill takes any enclosed void and makes the solid, and is joined to the sweep. 

 

Might help...

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TrippyLighting
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I currently have little time but thanks to @davebYYPCU I had a strong base to work with. 

The proper way to loft this is by creating a helper surface. This is what I do in the first step in the screencast.

The loft profile is tangent at the leading edge. To maintain that tangency along the leading edge of the loft, a sketch is not enough. Tangency can only be defined to another surface and that is the only purpose of that helper surface.

I define that tangency when I change the setting of the forst rail from "connected" to "tangency G1".

 

That allows me to create the compete half of the shape in a single loft.

 

Let me clarify the term "proper". For the purpose of this project @davebYYPCU's method is also perfectly acceptable!

 

 


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Anonymous
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Worked a treat! Thanks again, really appreciate it! 

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Anonymous
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That looks bloody brilliant, going to try that next. Thanks for your help!

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motorimicro
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please a little help ... I ran exactly the same commands to draw my own surf fin but I still have problems with the loft, could someone help me if I'm wrong somewhere or could it be the different shape of my split lines?

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davebYYPCU
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Laterale sketch is bad.  Line is not attached to origin.

 

noosk.PNG

 

Tangent handles here must be vertical, 

 

Verthnd.PNG

 

Then no error.

 

fnlftwork.PNG

 

might help.....

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motorimicro
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Schermata 2020-04-19 alle 12.37.36.png

I have done many tests but I continue to have problems.
unfortunately editing the loft that I am copying however it is not clear if the profiles are the split lines or a point while for the guide it is clearer.
I am attaching my file again so if you want you can check if I have correctly set the vertical handles and if you can maybe kindly indicate precisely profile 1 profile 2 and the rails so I will try again. thank you very much

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davebYYPCU
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Laterale Sketch still bad, 

straight line must be horizontal.

 

nocnsk.PNG

 

Profile is not touching Rail 2.  Everything else is OK.

When making the loft, profile and pick spline point, hide sketch, use body edge rails off the extruded body.

When you fix Laterale sketch, extruded body will update.

For Loft, must be accurate sketches.

 

Might help.

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motorimicro
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i often have this kind of problem with fusion and i think that is a bug because i do the correct thing...i use project include intersect but don't work, i spend a lot of time but don't work iand i don't know how to resolve...always the same and i read other post with person with same problem ...i don't know

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davebYYPCU
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Your Ok for sketch Pianta,

Project is working ok.  When you fix sketch 1, sketch 2 is working.

Your straight line was not on the Origin, when you fixed that end, the other end was not horizontal.

 

Can not project for 1st sketch,

must have straight black or purple lines, (except spline)

Rails not touching error -  always correct

 

Might help....

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Message 19 of 27

motorimicro
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thank you a lot the real problem was thet line was not on the origin.

i was exasperate.

here my final work.

 

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coleman.buckley
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Hello @TrippyLighting / @jeff_strater 

 

 

I watched your tutorial and found it helpful, thank you for that. I am trying to make a fin in a similar manner but need a 0.025" flat on the trailing edge. To do this I am using a profile at the tip of the fin that has this flat edge (instead of just using a point as you did). 

 

Something about the spline I drew for the trailing edge rail is generating extra edges when I loft between the two profiles. I have spent several hours trying to fix it and draw it in different ways, nothing is making it work. 

 

Would you please take a look at my file and see if you can suggest how to draw the spline so that I don't get the extra trailing edge edges?

 

Thank you so much!

 

Here is how I am currently drawing the rails

Screen Shot 2021-07-25 at 11.28.38 AM.png

 

and the unwanted edges I am getting

Screen Shot 2021-07-25 at 11.15.47 AM.png

also here is the profile at the tip and the profile at the root. The flat on both profiles is the same 0.025"

Screen Shot 2021-07-25 at 11.31.00 AM.png

Screen Shot 2021-07-25 at 11.31.14 AM.png

  

https://a360.co/3rBm1I4

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