How do I select only projected geometries in a sketch to delete them?

[hoegge]

When you have a busy sketch with a lot of projected items, how can I select only the projected items to delete them? This could be the case when you want to break the link to the projected items. I know you can do that with the break link command, but then you still need to be able to select all the projected items, which is impossible, especially since the "long-clicking menu" does not tell if it is projected. And IF you broke the links it would for real be impossible to tell the difference.

PS: I can't seem to find a way and don't understand it is not a selection filter, but since that is not the case I might have overlooked something

[davebYYPCU]

The only thing you have overlooked, is that

In the long click menu, when you go up and down that list, selecting any item changing at random in that list, while the list is open,

then you can delete the correct one at that stage.

Might help....

[hoegge]

Not sure I understand what you mean - is a word missing?

[hoegge]

... and selecting them one by one individually is a LOT of work if it is a complex drawing. Often you can’t even see the projected points and lines anymore. There should really also be a checkbox for showing only projected items in the sketch toolbox window

[jeff_strater]

I completely agree with you, @hoegge, this is an important, missing functionality.  Let me bring this up with the team to see if they agree.  For some reason, this doesn't come up a lot, I see that your IdeaStation item on this:  selection-filter-1-projected-items-2-missing-references hasn't gotten a lot of attention yet, but I still think that this is pretty important.  Perhaps others who see this thread will vote up your idea.

[hoegge]

Hi @davebYYPCU. I think you mean that the item you hover over is lit up, but you can't actually see if it is the projected purple item or a blue or black item, that is selected, so it does not help much. 

[davebYYPCU]

Your right, I can only offer advice from my experience, 

I keep my sketches simple, and I know what is projected or not.  Highlighting what is under the curser, is all that I need to select the one I want.

Sounds like you use a different workflow...

[hoegge]

Of course it normally would give trouble if I break links in a design. But some times I use one component as a template or reference for a new component. But then later on I want to break that link, e.g. if the new component now is the "truth" and the component I projected from as a reference is no longer there / deleted or needs to be redesigned or replaced. Also if you have broken links / yellow projections it would be very nice to be able to select just them and then delete them. 

[therealsamchaney]

Thank you @jeff_strater . I think the best solution for this would be to simply add projected entities to the list of selection filters. Then users could easily select all of the projected points and curves within a sketch and delete or modify only those. This wouldn't require as much development effort since the selection filter is already in place. 

Thanks!

-Sam

[johan.rutgeerts]

@jeff_strater  Any update on this?

Alternative to a selection filter would be an extra option in the sketch palette to hide all sketched geometry, so all that remains visible are the projected references.

Side question: also when not in sketching mode, there doesn't seem to be any functionality to reroute references (except for 'redefine sketch plane')?

Regards,

Johan

EDIT:

I just noticed it actually even says which projection fails (after deleting the projected sketch):

So it seems my Sketch5 contains a feature Project2, but it's not accessible anywhere.

It would make sense to me if these 'sketch features' (projections, but e.g. also sketch patterns) would be listed in the browser as a dropdown of the corresponding sketch.

[jeff_strater]

no updates.  I agree that making Manage Lost Projections available even without errors would be useful.  Unfortunately, that is pretty far down the priority list...  I also agree that finer-grained sketch selection filters of all kinds (by curve type, by construction/normal state, by Projected state) would all be very useful.  Also, unfortunately, not high on the backlog right now.

[TrippyLighting]

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@jeff_strater wrote:

... not high on the backlog right now.

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I'd love to see that backlog and the road map associated with it!!!

[TheCADWhisperer]

@hoegge 

Can you File>Export your *.f3d file to your local drive and then Attach it here to a Reply?

[hoegge]

Hi Jeff. I'd say, though, that all these other selection filters are nice-to-haves - whereas the projection filtering is essential and would save people a lot of trouble and troubleshooting time. Worries me a bit, that a simple feature like this stays so low on the priority list for so long. A lot of users never "complain", and of course a feature like this is not so important for fancy marketing campaigns and product owner's bonuses - but never the less, important for daily users.

[hoegge]

Not sure, what file you mean?

[jeff_strater]

the trouble is, from our point of view, we have dozens, maybe into the hundreds of these "simple features" that are all good requests, but each takes time ("simple" is relative...), and we just can't get to them all.  So, we have to prioritize.  I wish we could implement all of these, too, but it's not practical.  You can argue that we have the priority wrong, and of course that is subjective.

[TrippyLighting]

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@hoegge wrote:
Hi Jeff. I'd say, though, that all these other selection filters are nice-to-haves - whereas the projection filtering is essential and would save people a lot of trouble and troubleshooting time. Worries me a bit, that a simple feature like this stays so low on the priority list for so long. A lot of users never "complain", and of course a feature like this is not so important for fancy marketing campaigns and product owner's bonuses - but never the less, important for daily users.

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As a user who uses Fusion 360 daily in a professional environment and privately for my own projects at a professional level I find that to be exactly the opposite.

The "other" filter setting I use very often and those are essential.

Having better filter tools in the Sketch environment would be nice, but would definitely NOT be on top of the list.

The reason for this is that you already stated the obvious. Your sketch is complicated! The purpose of a sketch is to provide basic geometry for 3D operations. Refinements should be made with the the available 3D modeling tools and might require more simple sketches.

I understand that sometimes sketches get more complicated, but that should be the exception!

[TheCADWhisperer]

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@hoegge wrote:
Not sure, what file you mean?

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Any file that illustrates the usefulness of the proposed selection filter.

[TheCADWhisperer]

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@hoegge wrote:

When you have a busy sketch with a lot of projected items…

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This file.  Can you Attach it here?

[stiller.design]

that would be a very2 useful feature. I often struggle as well when I have a center rectangle that coincides with the "zero" point to find the constraints (I am aware of the long press)