How could you model this? Topographical Tray

[jyawschoolpsych]

I've been trying to learn how these trays are modeled and designed. I'm not sure if Fusion is used but I'm sure it could do it! For example, how would this design, which is a 7 x 7 square (although the dimensions are not really all that important more the process), be modeled?

Do you think it was an original sketch (say the very bottom one) that was then just offset and extruded up and up and up a number of times so you would have multiple layers - and then another sketch (say the box) was put over top of that and extruded up and then the rest of the parts outside of the box were just trimmed off?

Does anyone know a solid process to make these?

@davebYYPCU @wersy 

[Warmingup1953]

You can cheat a bit by using the CAM environment and saving the Simulation as a Mesh file...But you'll first need to model as a solid body...Would that work? EDIT: Full credit to my very first Tutor Lars Christenson for the save Mesh from Simulation "Trick"!

EDIT2: Moel attached

And still valid for more complex geometry:

[davebYYPCU]

Same technique as the other one/s.

A boundary wall, and a Surface Body, for the smoothish contoured face.  

some of those examples would work better as a sculpted cutter body.

Extrude to object, or Split Body, or Boundary Fill.
The stepping feature is  done in Manufacture, using the step down as required.

To get some of those trays, the actual shape may need a few controlling sketches, and Loft the layer cake.

Might help….

[TimelesslyTiredYouth]

@Warmingup1953 - Thanks for new information never knew you could save the simulation as a mesh file, game changing for me!

for @jyawschoolpsych for the last image, I don't think theres a quick way to do this and from my perspective, the only thing I'm thinking of is the laborious way of doing it so here it is: a big mistake...

just keep making sketchings, extruding, until you get to the top, chamfer, then fillet the edges and I used the chamber technique on the bottom for no reason at all (just being dumb) and this can be repeated for every one of the pictures above you've given, don't think there's a quicker way for the more geometrically "random" tray design thingies unless it's simple, then @Warmingup1953 way can be used.

Happy Regards

Ricky

P.S

I would've finished to the top to show the full example, but I'm tired. Sorry, I had work...

Also my model is very rushed, take that into consideration.

*As Dave YYPCU said a surface body for the boundary would've given smoother results compared to my fillet and chamfer.

[jyawschoolpsych]

Dave! You've commented on all of my posts in the last few weeks (again, I'm very new to Fusion!). Is there any way you could make a brief (even just 1 or 2 of the layers for these sorts of catch all trays) with what you're talking about here in your reply and attach? Alternatively, I see that you're really good at Fusion I'm trying to figure out how to go about getting like some actual tutoring with the software? There are a few things I want to learn and then practice and I just don't know like where to start or I feel like it would be so mice to sketch one in say, a 30 minute session or something where I could see someone do it in real time. Do you know of anything like that or would you be interested in helping if it fit in with your schedule? No worries if not.

[TimelesslyTiredYouth]

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@jyawschoolpsych wrote:

(again, I'm very new to Fusion!)

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You've said your new, have you by chance done this?

These are @Drewpan 's words, Just thought they'd be helpful in this thread.

I recommend that you do the embedded tutorials in the Fusion Documentation and also some of the

Self-Paced Learning to help you to learn fusion faster and better. They can be found here:

Time spent on the tutorials and self paced learning will not be wasted. Also check out the three RULES that are pinned to the forum for further guidance.

@Drewpan if you see this, I hope I didn't cause offence by copying your advice, just figured, your way of saying it feels easier to understand to my way...

From me however, If you follow R.U.L.E 0 specifically, you can find some good youtube channels where you can learn Fusion "properly" from the "right people"

If your very new, I'd reccomend learning Fusion in 30 days, 2023/2024 edition by ProductDesignOnline as this is a great way for begginers to understand basic concepts and such in my opinion, and I'd like to believe they're not cowboys.

Kind regards

Ricky

[davebYYPCU]

Sent PM, happy to help…

[Drewpan]

Hi,

I don't mind you using my words at all. I am here to learn fusion myself and to help others. I actually have the post

you used in a Word file and I copy and paste it all the time. I also know all about RULE #0 - I wrote it 😎. I don't

see myself as a Guru, more like a advanced beginner.

I am always trying to learn new things about fusion, it is the main reason I Lurk the forum.  I will check out the

guys you have suggested. Feel free to copy that particular post any time.

Cheers

Andrew

[jyawschoolpsych]

OK see how did you model the actual geometry in that last image the one that has the curves in it? Do you have a f3d file you could share so I could reverse your timeline to see how you did that?

[Warmingup1953]

Yes FWIW I have attached to my original post

[jyawschoolpsych]

Wow! Thank you so much!