Gewinde - Schnittgröße

Gewinde - Schnittgröße

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Gewinde - Schnittgröße

Anonymous
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Hallo,

ich habe eine Gewindestange mit variablen Steigungen gebaut, besser gesagt 5 Gewinde mit unterschiedlichen Steigungen zusammengebastelt.

Beim Versuch eine Frässtrategie darauf zu bauen habe ich festgestellt, dass durch eine höhere Steigung die konstante Schnittgröße "kleiner" wird und plötzlich ein Fräser nicht mehr in die Gewindespur passt.

Wie kann ich die Schnittgröße so berechnen, dass ich einen Zapfen durch das Gewinde durchziehen/transportieren kann ?

 

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etfrench
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Can you attach the file to this forum thread? What technique did you use to create the model thread?

 

https://www.bing.com/translator/ :

Können Sie die Datei an diesem Forum Thread anfügen? Welche Technik haben Sie zum Erstellen des Modell-Threads verwendet?

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Anonymous
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Sorry - I am in the english Forum, so I have to talk english.

 

Here is the model thread.

 

With the 2D-CAM-strategy I also got problems to mark.

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Anonymous
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I was too fast ...

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etfrench
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The 2d adaptive toolpath seems to be creating a valid toolpath.  What is the pin size that needs to fit in the slot?

@jeff_strater:  Can you forward this to the right people?

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Anonymous
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The pin will be 5mm. Because of this I made a slot of 5.75mm.

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etfrench
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Even though the section size you selected was 5.75mm, the width of the slot in the screen capture below shows it to be only 4.22mm about 40mm from the top.  Perhaps @TrippyLighting, @HughesTooling, @SaeedHamza, or @davebYYPCU could provide a reason for this.  I don't use the Coil command enough to know its idiosyncrasies.

 

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SaeedHamza
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Thanks for the mention @etfrench

 

What I think is wrong here is something in the process @Anonymous used, because normally this shouldn't create any problems

Here is a screencast to show who to create the coil with the desired slot size

 

And @etfrench try to measure the distance between both faces ( upper and lower ) using the measure tool instead of creating a line, it's more accurate

 

Regards

 

Saeed

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HughesTooling
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The problem is the coil command in Fusion is not very good, the profile is parallel with the axis but it needs to be perpendicular to the helix. Attached is a screencast and file that shows how to fix by rotating the end face so it's perpendicular.

 

I use Diameter1 and Pitch1 for the first coil then this equation with give the angle the face need to be. atan(Pitch1 / ( PI * Diameter1 ))

 For some reason you can't modify the helix directly so you have to cut the coil from the shaft then rotate the face then press pull to correct the error. Probably could make parameters for this as well with a bit of effort.

 

 

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Don't know if this will cause you problems but the 2 helical faces are not parallel, another problem caused by the profile not being perpendicular to the helix.

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TrippyLighting
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The problem is a mixture of what @HughesTooling wrote with the profile not being perpendicular to the path and sow of what has been posted in this thread about creation a barrel cam in Fusion 360. I had created a screencast but it was found not to be entirely correct. This is a non trivial solution for Fusion 360 and one of the reasons is the the amateurish implementation of the coil tool.


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Anonymous
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Thank you for your help.

I tried it with the screencast but i can't set the second helix to the first.

Then i tried other parameters for the second, third helix. There i get steps between the helixes.

Who can me help to solve the Problem ?

 

 

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etfrench
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Try making each helix a little longer then use the split tool to remove the overlap.

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Anonymous
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There is no good solution till now.

I thought i can do wrapping a sketch on cylinder. But the addin "fusion360wrapsketch" is only for one Rotation.

The only thing i need is to make a toolpath in cam - 2D-adaptive clearing can't make a toolpath. There i can't select the Sketch.

With this Sketch i could do a constant pitch of 5.2mm and even a variable Helix - if it would work.

 

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Anonymous
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From SolidWorks i get a solution with "Umwickeln" / ?wrap?. Here i can make a long path and wrap it on a cylinder a few times.

 

With the .step-file i get it to Fusion 360 and here i can work with it and "cam" it.

 

In Fusion 360 i didn't find this command for a whole spread-path only for one rotation.

 

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