Gah, struggling with loft feature.

artisticdirection
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Gah, struggling with loft feature.

artisticdirection
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Hi all. I'm currently rendering a guitar neck and having the darndest time lofting the heel to the shaft (or neck body). See screen capture. I continue to get an error that my rail is not smooth, or my rails do not intersect. Some of my sketches are made from DXF files. Is this my problem? So frustrating.

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@artisticdirection 

Note that you have blue sketch geometry (actual color depends on color scheme).

Click and drag geometry.

What to  you observe?

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You should observe that the horizontal construction line is not constrained to Horizontal.

Add the Horizontal constraint.

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Notice the change in color of the sketch geometry.

 

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Let's add 3 more Construction lines to Sketch1.

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Add two Colinear constraints between appropriate angled lines (Fusion might do this for you - if you hover over original lines you can get Fusion to add these constraints automatically - otherwise do it manually.)

 

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Add the 16.95 dimension as shown above.

 

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Add the line shown above.  We want it vertical and if you are careful Fusion will automatically add Vertical (or Parallel to another vertical line).  But it might do Perpendicular to the angled Construction line which we do not want.  (Again, you can force Parallel by "scrubbing" one of the vertical lines.)

Edit: And be careful that the first point does not snap to the midpoint of the top angled construction line.

 

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As a beginner let's just manually add the Vertical constraint and Trim the excess length.

 

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Select the line and mash x on the keyboard to toggle to Construction.

Add the 5.635 dimension as shown above. (Click on image to enlarge.)

 

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Now select Plane at angle and create a Workplane 90° to the 16.95 construction line.

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Start a New Sketch on this new workplane and the mash p for Project and select the Construction line that we used to create the plane.

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Create a Construction line from the Midpoint of and perpendicular to the Projected line.

Dimension as .6 inch.

 

Add 3 lines as shown below connected to the Projected line.

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Add a Midpoint constraint between the bottom horizontal line in the image and the endpoint of the .6 construction line...

Change these three lines to Construction.

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Now add another horizontal line being careful no to snap to the midpoints of the vertical lines.

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Add a 3Point arc clicking on the endpoints first and then the end of the .6 line.

 

Dimension the arc as 1.05 and change the horizontal line to Construction.

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(Later we might experiment with Spline rather than arc - but for now lets keep it simple.)

 

Having said that - I made a mistake. No problem - we will fix that now.

 

 

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Click on one of the endpoints of the arc.

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You will see two Coincident Constraint glyphs appear.

If you hover over one you will see the horizontal line subtly highlight.

If you hover over the other one you will see the vertical line subtly highlight - select and delete that constraint.

Repeat on the other side.

 

Now drag one of the endpoints...

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Add a smaller 3 Point arc as shown (be careful about automatic constraints).

 

If not added automatically - then manually add Tangent constraints between the smaller arc and the vertical line and larger arc.

 

Repeat on the other side.

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The sketch should once again be fully defined.

Note that with everything we have done the model is fully parametric - we can double click edit any dimension and edit (within logical reason) and the geometry automatically updates.

 

Attach your file here for next set of steps.

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Got stuck here – Create a Construction line from the Midpoint of and perpendicular to the Projected line.

Dimension as .6 inch.
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All good here
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@artisticdirection 

Attach the *.f3d file of your progress thus far for next set of steps (will be substantially different than last set of instructions, demonstrating another, more efficient technique).

I have learned over the years to never assume someone is actually following along.

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artisticdirection
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I've attached my progress herewith. Sorry that I'm not more readily available to work on this. My day job tires me out as I stare at a computer screen all day long.

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@artisticdirection wrote:
All good here

The latest file that you Attached is not completed up till my last instruction?

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OK, I'm stuck here (see screen capture) I don't understand why I'm dragging one of the end points. And where and how do I add the smaller 3 point arc?

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OK, with you so far, thanks for the video! I assume you're using dimensions from the vector art I sent you? Interesting way to draw the neck profile shape. 

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@artisticdirection wrote:

 I assume you're using dimensions from the vector art I sent you? Interesting way to draw the neck profile shape. 


@artisticdirection 

That is the key to parametric modeling - no assumptions!

Either the dimensions are what you want or not.  If not, double click on dimension and edit to what you really really want.

Absolute precise control by designer.

 

Isn't absolute precise and predictable control the same technique used in Illustrator (I have never used it before)?

 

New problem...

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You have both Construction Plane1 and Plane2 in exactly the same location.

That doesn't do us any good.

 

Plane2 should be here...

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Oops, actually your sketch is on Plane2, so Edit the location of Plane1 instead.

 

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Once you have edited the location of the Construction plane start a new sketch and repeat these steps

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...this time with a distance of 0.675

 

Sketch the large arc

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Dimension radius as 1.45 this time...

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Add Horizontal constraint if Fusion does not add Horizontal (or Perpendicular or Parallel) for you automatically.

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Now here is a pro tip...

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Select Coincident constraint.

Select the vertical construction line.

Shift select the horizontal construction line at the midpoint.

 

This will put the midpoint of the horizontal line on the vertical line but not at the midpoint of the vertical line.

Now add the smaller tangent arcs...

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Attach your progress here.

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artisticdirection
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Trying to adjust some of the dimensions, when I try to add a new dimension for the width of the neck near the headstock, I get this popup message. I'm trying to change the width of the sketch from 1.675 to 1.65

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@artisticdirection wrote:

 I'm trying to change the width of the sketch from 1.675 to 1.65


No file Attached?

No image of the dimension 1.675?

I do not know what dimension you are referring to?

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artisticdirection
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Can you see the attached screen shots? I extended the overall length of the neck to 18.5"

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TheCADWhisperer
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That width is dependent on Sketch1.

Logically, you have to edit the dimension in Sketch1.

Don’t even need a dimension in later dependent sketches.

Edit the original dimension and all will update with predictable behavior.

This is what parametric modeling is all about. Logical, predictable, robust editing.

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@artisticdirection wrote:

I extended the overall length of the neck to 18.5"


@artisticdirection 

Actually - I can't see that as you did not Attach your *.f3d file here (see my example Logic Rules in Geometry.f3d file Attached below).

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artisticdirection
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I tried to edit Sketch 1 from the top view, but I get the same error. "The dimension would over-constrain the sketch. Create a Driven dimension instead?"

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We use G2Crowd to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by G2Crowd. Ads are based on both G2Crowd data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that G2Crowd has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to G2Crowd to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. G2Crowd Privacy Policy
NMPI Display
We use NMPI Display to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by NMPI Display. Ads are based on both NMPI Display data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that NMPI Display has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to NMPI Display to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. NMPI Display Privacy Policy
VK
We use VK to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by VK. Ads are based on both VK data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that VK has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to VK to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. VK Privacy Policy
Adobe Target
We use Adobe Target to test new features on our sites and customize your experience of these features. To do this, we collect behavioral data while you’re on our sites. This data may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, your IP address or device ID, your Autodesk ID, and others. You may experience a different version of our sites based on feature testing, or view personalized content based on your visitor attributes. Adobe Target Privacy Policy
Google Analytics (Advertising)
We use Google Analytics (Advertising) to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Google Analytics (Advertising). Ads are based on both Google Analytics (Advertising) data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Google Analytics (Advertising) has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Google Analytics (Advertising) to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Google Analytics (Advertising) Privacy Policy
Trendkite
We use Trendkite to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Trendkite. Ads are based on both Trendkite data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Trendkite has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Trendkite to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Trendkite Privacy Policy
Hotjar
We use Hotjar to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Hotjar. Ads are based on both Hotjar data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Hotjar has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Hotjar to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Hotjar Privacy Policy
6 Sense
We use 6 Sense to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by 6 Sense. Ads are based on both 6 Sense data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that 6 Sense has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to 6 Sense to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. 6 Sense Privacy Policy
Terminus
We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
StackAdapt
We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
The Trade Desk
We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
RollWorks
We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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