Drawing Parts List Showing Separate Line Items for Same Part No

Drawing Parts List Showing Separate Line Items for Same Part No

kterryTYYYC
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Drawing Parts List Showing Separate Line Items for Same Part No

kterryTYYYC
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I have searched and searched but am unable to find a solution to my problem. In my original design I created wires using spline and sweep. Made components from bodies, assigned necessary properties, i.e. Part No, Description, etc. But when I generate parts list in the drawing instead of showing Qty of 2 for the wire it has two separate lines with a Qty of 1. How do I consolidate them into a single line item? This is driving me crazy! Thanks!

 

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jhackney1972
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Please attach your ASSEMBLY MODEL, not the drawing, so the Forum users can see your structure.  If you do not know how to attach your Fusion 360 model follow these easy steps. Open the model in Fusion 360, select the File menu, then Export and save as a F3D or F3Z file to your hard drive. Then use the Attachments section, of a forum post, to attach it.

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kterryTYYYC
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I have attached the f3z file. Thanks!

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laughingcreek
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@kterryTYYYC wrote:

...Made components from bodies, ...

 


this is likely where you went wrong.  you can see the answer in the browser tree-

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you only have one instance of each component in your browser tree (the component instance is the number after the colon)

 

so you had a body named Heat Shrink, and you made a component out of the body which yielded "Heat Shrink:1"

 

then you made a component out of a second body with the same name.  since fusion likes components to have unique names it added (1) to it, so you get a second component named "heat Shrink (1):1"

 

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Anonymous
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You seem to be in some serious trouble.

The idea in the discussion is true. You are creating a different component file.

You can fix the renaming issue by using the pattern tool in the solid design view. It's in Create tab.

Long Story short you need to change the number after the :colon_here

 

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This is the result I got. I can't help you. I have a limited Fusion 360. 

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But, it works the same. Pattern. And create or update drawing.

I'm not sure how to rename the property manually. But, there is also a possible work around in Fxy. Because to be honest the piece quantity entry is present.

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Anonymous
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@kterryTYYYC Just in case the Drawing seems to work very quick. But, a slow performer.

It's a quick create.

To 1:1 on A4

Add Detail view to some important coordinate.

Add Parts list to document

Edit the publisher information.

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@I also noticed that you are trying to create a beta changing the looks and position of the component parts. But, it's recommended to start with the patterns early in the history panel. They adjust easier. And when you create a pattern all the bodies can still have face and edge modified. It's kind of a time saver to clone instead of create. Once you get used to it.
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kterryTYYYC
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Thanks for the comments, when I have time I will try this again from the start using your suggestions. For the time being though I cheated and created a custom table and typed the details manually, not ideal I know but it got me what I wanted, now I have something I can show the customer. It would be nice if there was an option to derive uniqueness from assigned part numbers rather than individual components for the purposes of creating a parts list. The main reason I initially avoided cloning the wire was so the wires could be bent differently (but still the same part) for intended non-symmetry for a more natural representation. A habit I picked up from using Blender.

 

I've only been using Fusion for about six month, and I've learned allot in a short time, but clearly I have much more to learn. For starters I need to get in the habit of using "RULE # 1" and "RULE # 2" from the pinned topics 🙂

 

Thanks again for all the helpful comments. I will update this when I have a chance to try your suggestions. Cheers!

 

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kterryTYYYC
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Ok, I had a chance to try again from scratch. I created the first wire as a new component. Copied it. They both appear to have separate timelines when activated. Now the drawing parts list works as expected showing qty of 2, but now I can not alter the path / spline of the second wire without affecting the first one. Is there any way to edit them independently while still retaining proper hierarchy in the drawing parts list? Or am I stuck having to manually edit a custom table for my parts list because I want the wires bent differently?  New file attached. Thanks!

 

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Anonymous
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I'm going to admit that I'm meddling here. The only thing I was able to change individually is the Appearance. And the appearance will usually have bump maps associated with the appearance file. You can clone them as well. In this case it's just a copy file. 

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@kterryTYYYC Right now I'm going to have to say this is your problem. Because from recent tests. This problem persists within the entire project body. Where component "copies" that I tested, which are supposed to be different from patterns. For some reason have persistent body containers. Someone did this dirty for you. That's not how component body containers work. Goodbye.Untitled.png

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laughingcreek
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@kterryTYYYC wrote:

...They both appear to have separate timelines when activated. ...

 


no, there is only one timeline for the component.  there are 2 instances of that component.  that is why when you one change one the other changes, and also why drawings is able to detect a qty of 2.

 

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Is there any way to edit them independently while still retaining proper hierarchy in the drawing parts list? Or am I stuck having to manually edit a custom table for my parts list because I want the wires bent differently? 

 


no, there isn't.  one way or another you will have to do something manually to do what you want.  either the way your presently approaching, by editing the table, or by having the model accurately represent your part count, and having a separate model that is setup and shown just for illustration purposes.  (I tend to prefer the model be accurate, and create separate illustration models when necessary.)

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kterryTYYYC
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For what it's worth, I reached out to the kind folks at OpenBOM and they said that managing wiring in a BOM with Fusion is tricky as I have found out, and that what I am trying to achieve is not possible (even with OpenBOM) without some customization (which they can do $$). This is a limitation of Fusion. So, for the time being I will maintain my wiring details in the margins of the drawing, custom tables, etc. I would rather my models and drawings look the way I want them to look. Thanks again for y'alls suggestions. Cheers!

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