Disappearing tool tips

[Anonymous]

When I hoover over any menu option the tool tip flashes on then immediately dissapears.  As a new user, this is killing me.  Any idea why or how to fix it?

Using

Fusion 360 version  2.0.1870

under a student plan on an Azus desktop, Windoze 8.1 .

[Anonymous]

Select the tool you wish to use from the toolbar and hold the left mouse button down. Then move to another tool to bring up the tool tip for that tool, the tool tip will stay exposed. Then move the mouse cursor back to the tool you are trying to work with and the tool tip will stay on the screen. As long as you keep the left mouse button pressed the tool tips will keep being displayed as you move through the toolbar and any tools which you select. It's a pain in the arse but it works on my Win 10 system.

[mavigogun]

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@Anonymous wrote:

As the originator of this thread, I never could get Fusion to work correctly, and after a couple weeks of trying to figure out if I should create parts out of components, or components out of sketches, and building a series of joints starting from what I intended to be the stationary component, only to have the entire thing swivel around some later joint for no apparent reason after working ok for the first 3 or 4, I gave up.

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The tool works in a way you don't understand- is the problem the tool, the designer... or the operator?   Often- due to actual design failures or broken features, which can be hard to discern.  

A spur in the middle of a handle is a design failure- Fusion has a few of those; occasionally you'll reach for a tool and need to stop the bleeding before continuing.     Is that the problem here?

A broken tool is like the head flying off of a hammer- and, tragically, not entirely uncommon for Fusion.   Broken tools become damning when, known, are left to persist- when workflows based on presumed function are necessarily abandoned, plotted around as a matter of course.    Is that the problem here?

An ignorant tool operator may stumble their way to productivity, but not consistently.      Would-be users of Fusion will need to educate themselves if they hope to achieve any satisfaction in an environment including design failures and broken features.   Judging from my experience with joints, the problem voiced here is on the operator side of the screen.   You can fix that, if you care to- though not well indexed, their are many, many video tutorials on implementing joints.

It should come as no surprise, but being an builder of tools does not translate into a capacity to teach.   At some point, some decider with Autodesk determined Fusion would not be comprehensively documented -instead, a patchwork of thin summations and basic function videos was abandoned in favor of serial learning-through-task videos, tips, and user created instruction.   While between those resources and this space most every concern may be addressed, the arrangement poses a hurtle some won't have sufficient momentum to surmount.

You can't cheat experience.   Going form point A to point B might be an undaunting task if you're just walking across the room; if you want to fly a jet, you're gonna need a manual and some training.   Well, Fusion has no manual.   If you're suited to it, as some are, training may suffice.   For that, you'll have to delay satisfaction while you seek out training exercises.   For sure, Autodesk has decided to limit its market to those who can tolerate this circumstance.

[Anonymous]

Wow shepow, you must be a lawyer, if not, at least a legal assistant.
I think you hit the nail right on the head

[Phil.E]

@Stanley_Boris @Anonymous

Have you tried to use any of the formal learning materials? I'd hate to think of you wasting time just poking around looking for solutions when you could spend that same time learning the workflows you want to master.

This is where a lot of people start. 

https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/get-started

If self-paced teaching isn't working for you, have you considered finding a local Fusion 360 meetup, or perhaps the local community college offers classes? I hope you can find the resources you need.

If you have any questions please let me know.

Regards,

[daniel]

This thread is about a bug with Fusion 360, and I am subscribed to it so that I will be made aware when it is resolved by the developers. The last few posts are in my opinion off-topic, and instead a new thread should be created to moan about not being capable of learning or finding learning resources for Fusion 360.

[Anonymous]

Daniel you are spot on. I am a newbee to Fusion. Except for the tool tips
disparaging, I have no problems with fusion that time and training will not
resolve. That being said, Fusion 360 is the best thing since sliced bread

[mavigogun]

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@daniel wrote:
This thread is about a bug with Fusion 360, and I am subscribed to it so that I will be made aware when it is resolved by the developers. The last few posts are in my opinion off-topic, and instead a new thread should be created to moan about not being capable of learning or finding learning resources for Fusion 360.

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True... and maybe.   Still, consider this: with the bitching-and-moaning likely resolved, you are beating a dead horse- while spawning notifications for all the other subscribers who now get to experience the joy of clicking on the post thinking they are getting an update only to read your complaint about off topic posting.   A bitter and anticipateable irony, no?

Topics naturally meander, and, often, consequently increase in value.

[Anonymous]

worked for me too. Shame this happens though

[micmul22]

I tryed to do the trick with the toolbar placement at the bottom and back.

It works for a few clicks and then the tooltips disappear again.

I am a new user and it is really annoing.

[chrisplyler]

Phil,

Please tell the coding guy (you obviously only have one guy who works part time through a temp agency doing all the coding over there at Autodesk) to prioritize current UI failures ahead of new features. Thanks!

Oh, get him signed up into a typing class also. That might help a bit.

[mavigogun]

Easy way to get rid of this (and other) Fusion bugs: hover your pointer over the X in the top right corner until the field behind it turns red > click once > turn off your computer > dig a hole > put your computer in the hole > fill the hole > wonder what you will do with all your free time.

[Anonymous]

Try holding the left mouse button in the clicked state

[Phil.E]

@micmul22 

The workaround is to press down the left mouse button on a menu item. As long as you have the button pressed on the item the tool tip will remain visible.

[mavigogun]

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@Phil.E wrote:

The workaround is to press down the left mouse button on a menu item. As long as you have the button pressed on the item the tool tip will remain visible.

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I can't speak for y'all, but after many hours of holding the mouse button down while dragging elements around, my hand begins to suffer- and the additional burden of this maneuver translates directly to physical pain.    Something to keep in mind when considering how much users might be willing to endure.

[Phil.E]

@chrisplyler Actually there are hundreds of people working on Fusion 360. We take failures like this very seriously and always seek to avoid such situations, taking a lot of time and effort to deliver a quality experience. Unfortunately sometimes things like this happen. Thank you for your patience.

[micmul22]

Thanks for trying, but I also tried this one. It is not working for me. I
just see the tooltip flash and when I push the mouse button and hold,
nothing happens.

The only thing that works for a short time, is dragging the toolbar down,
place it there and drag it back.

[micmul22]

Thanks, but I already tried that one. It is not working for me. It flashes
short. When I push the left mouse button and hold, nothing happens. Only
when I eventually release the mouse it opens the function. The only things
that works for a short while, is dragging the toolbar down, place it there
and then drag it back. But that's only for a short while.

[micmul22]

I understand that some things are difficult to find. For sure when not
everybody gets the same results, when trying something. I just hope you and
your team can find a solution for this. Thanks for the work.

[mavigogun]

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@micmul22 wrote:
Thanks for trying, but I also tried this one. It is not working for me. I
just see the tooltip flash and when I push the mouse button and hold,
nothing happens.

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For this to work for me, I must first click and hold on the menu header- so, if in the Model workspace, this might manifest as clicking and holding on Sketch on the header, only to move down the menu- still holding -to the needed function there after.   Is that how you're attempting to trick Fusion into displaying properly (as it did before a recent version push)?

It strikes me that it might be in my interest to put Fusion on a jarred computer, isolatable from the internet- when a version of Fusion is pushed out I can live with, cut access to the net and "export" (you know, save) files locally.   (I just can't let that bit of verbal jujitsu go- Fusion is ran locally on my machine: when I save files locally, I'm not exporting them anywhere.   Where all functions performed remotely, then, ya, a local copy might be viewed as "exported"- but not as it is now.)

[Phil.E]

Everyone, thank you for your patience. The new release build 2.0.4383 is now available and this issue should be fixed. Restart Fusion to receive the update, and restart Fusion again when it's done updating. Click on the little clock icon on the top bar to see the update in progress.

Please let us know if you continue to see any problems.

Regards,